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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:08:24 +0100
From: Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Network Diagram

>Can anyone tell me of a good network diagraming program? I need one
>that will diagram nodes already in place.

I like Visio, see  http://www.salford.ac.uk/ais/Network/drawings
for example of the diagrams I produce using it.

It does not discover the nodes itself, but I don't manage down to the PC,
and with a couple of thousand nodes wouldn't really have much use fo the
drawing once completed.

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 13:59:53 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: how to useIPTunnel???

>I am quite puzzled about this question too. I have checked my net.cfg against
>Daniel's and have the latest vlm kit. I have upgraded the server to tcpip
>2.02m and when i boot my workstation I get 12 packets received and 8 set out.
>Otherwise the server justs sits there, though its sending/reciveing lots of
>packets on the conventional frames.
>
>My TCPIP connection is OK as seen by lwpcon or ping.
>
>I have attached as many details as i can in the hope someone will see what
>I've not done! Help much appreciated
>
>chris
>
>My net.cfg file is:
>
>
>#
>#Net parameters
>#
>show dots=on
>set station time=off
>#
>Link support
>	buffers 16 1600
>	mempool 8192
>	max stacks 5
>#
>#	NET.CFG File for SMC8000
>#
>Link Driver SMC8000
>	Frame Ethernet_II
>	protocol TCPIP 800 Ethernet_ii

	Uh oh. The line above is wrong. There are three lines which appear
	in this location, and they must look like this:

	Protocol        IP      0800    Ethernet_II
	Protocol        ARP     0806    Ethernet_II
	Protocol        RARP    8035    Ethernet_II


>	protocol IPX 8137 Ethernet_ii
>#	Port #1 280
>#	Mem #1 000D0000 2000/10
>#	Int #1 3
>#	PS/2 Slot ?
>
>Link Driver IPTUNNEL
>	gateway 144.32.212.42
>	gateway 255.255.255.255

	You can have only one gateway, and the second line makes no sense.

>Protocol IPX
>	bind 2

	Syntax. The "bind 2" kind went out of style at Provo, in favor of
	first "bind #2" and then currently "bind name_of_module"

	The load ordering and binding is vital for IP tunneling. Module
	IPTUNNEL forms a fake lan adapter for IPX, so IPX must bind to
	it. IPTUNNEL talks to TCPIP.EXE so TCPIP must be loaded before
	IPTUNNEL, IPTUNNEL binds to it. IPXODI is loaded after IPTUNNEL.

	      Applications
		  |
	       VLM/NETX
		  |                      <-----------------
		  |                     |                 ^
		IPXODI               TCPIP.EXE            |
		  |                     |                 |
		--------------------------------          |
		|           LSL                |          |
		--------------------------------          |
		  |                     |                 |
		IPTUNNEL            Ethernet MLID         |
		  |                     |                 |
		  |                    wire               |
		  |                                       |
		   --------------------------------------->
			IPTunnel's clever roundabout

	The loading order thus becomes
	LSL
	MLID            for Ethernet
	TCPIP
	IPTUNNEL
	IPXODI
	VLM/NETX

>#
>#Net parameters
>#
>show dots=on
>set station time=off
>#
>
>NetWare DOS Requester
>	FIRST NETWORK DRIVE = F
>	NETWARE PROTOCOL = NDS BIND
>	preferred server=biol_teach1
>
>Protocol TCPIP
>	PATH SCRIPT     C:\NW\NET\SCRIPT
>	PATH PROFILE    C:\NW\NET\PROFILE
>	PATH LWP_CFG    C:\NW\NET\HSTACC
>	PATH TCP_CFG    C:\NW\NET\TCP
>
>protocol KERMIT
>	bind smc8000

	You won't be able to run Kermit over ODI while Novell's TCP/IP stack
is also using ODI.

	Joe D.

------------------------------

Audit log processing utilities:

audit.exe	v3.13	by Gabor Borsodi: processes the net$acct.dat file,
					  many options
		ftp.salford.ac.uk/network/misc/audit.zip


auditn.exe	v1.1	by David G King: processes the file created by
					 Novell's paudit.exe. it is based
					 on Jeff Pilant's utility
		SIMTEL /msdos/novell/auditn11.zip


paudit.bas	v1.1	by Jeff Pilant:	processes the file created by
					Novell's paudit.exe
		SIMTEL /msdos/novell/paudit11.zip


paudit2.exe	v1.35	by Wolfgang Schreiber: processes the net$acct.dat
					       file, many options
		NOVUSER/07/paudit.zip


rjlaudit.exe	v1.0	by Richard J. Letts: source code & program and an
					     awk script to process
					     net$acct.dat
		ftp.salford.ac.uk/network/utils/rjlaudit.zip

Wolfgang Schreiber.

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{   This file describes the format of the entries in the NET$ACCT.DAT
    data base.  It uses Pascal declarations for illustration purposes.

    Entries in Net$ACCT.DAT are sequential
    Determine the begin of each entry by using the
    length of the previous entry.

    Entries can be of type
       RecType=1 ('Submit Charge');
	 or
       RecType=2 ('Account Note')
}

TYPE DateTime6 = Byte[6];  { date and time stamp of entry}

TYPE Cmt = RECORD          { interprete comments according to CmtType }
     CASE Integer of
     1 : (ConnectTime  : LongInt;       {Normal charge note}
	  RequestCount : LongInt;
	  BytesRead    : BYTE[6];
	  BytesWritten : BYTE[6];
     2 : (BlocksOwned  : LongInt;       {Disk storage charge note}
	  HalfHours    : LongInt);
     3,                                 {Login Note}
     4,                                 {Logout Note}
     5 : (Location  : AddressType);     {Intruder Note}
     6 : (ServerTime   : DateTime6);    {Server Time Change}
(*
     8,                                 {Server booted}
     9:                                 {Server downed}
*)
      99: (Comment      : String)
     END;

{  Use either the Type SubmitCharge or SubmitNote to interprete
   an entry - decide on RecType }


TYPE SubmitCharge = RECORD
	FS_ID   : LongInt;
	TimeStmp: DateTime6;
	RecType : BYTE;  {Record type Note/Charge}
	ccode   : BYTE;  {completion code}
	SrvType : WORD;  {Service Type - e.g. 4 for file server service}
	ClientID: LongInt;
{!}	Charge    : LongInt;    { This field is not in the SubmitNote !!}
	CmtType : WORD;  {see types above}
	Comment : Cmt;   {Variable length field}
	END;

TYPE SubmitNote = RECORD
	FS_ID   : LongInt;
	TimeStmp: DateTime6;
	RecType : BYTE;
	ccode   : BYTE;
	SrvType : WORD;
	ClientID: LongInt;
	CmtType : WORD;
	Comment : Cmt;
	END;

	Thx Wolfgang Schreiber

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Vendor Addresses

Ethernet hardware addresses are 48 bits, expressed as 12 hexadecimal digits
(0-9, plus A-F, capitalized). These 12 hex digits consist of
the first/left 6 digits (which should match the vendor of the Ethernet interface
within the station) and the last/right 6 digits which specify the interface
serial number for that interface vendor.

Ethernet addresses might be written unhyphenated (e.g. 123456789ABC),
or with one hyphen (e.g. 123456-789ABC), but should be written hyphenated
by octets (e.g. 12-34-56-78-9A-BC).

These addresses are physical station addresses, not multicast nor
broadcast, so the second hex digit (reading from the left)
will be even, not odd.

At present, it is not clear how the IEEE assigns Ethernet block addresses.
Whether in blocks of 2**24 or 2**25, and whether multicasts are assigned
with that block or separately. A portion of the vendor block address
is reportedly assigned serially, with the other portion intentionally
assigned randomly. If there is a global algorithm for which addresses
are designated to be physical (in a chipset) versus logical
(assigned in software), or globally-assigned versus locally-assigned addresses,
some of the known addresses do not follow the scheme (e.g AA0003; 02xxxx).

00-00-0C	Cisco
00-00-0F	NeXT
00-00-10	Sytek
00-00-1D	Cabletron
00-00-20	DIAB (Data Intdustrier AB)
00-00-22	Visual Technology
00-00-2A	TRW
00-00-5A	S & Koch
00-00-5E	U.S. Department of Defense
00-00-65	Network General
00-00-6B	MIPS
00-00-77	MIPS
00-00-7A	Ardent
00-00-7B	Research Machines
00-00-89	Cayman Systems	Gatorbox
00-00-93	Proteon
00-00-94	Asante
00-00-9F	Ameristar Technology
00-00-A2	Wellfleet
00-00-A3	Network Application Technology
00-00-A4	Acorn
00-00-A6	Network General (internal assignment, not for products)
00-00-A7	NCD	X-terminals
00-00-A9	Network Systems
00-00-AA	Xerox	Xerox machines
00-00-B3	CIMLinc
00-00-B7	Dove	Fastnet
00-00-BC	Allen-Bradley
00-00-C0	Western Digital
00-00-C6	HP Intelligent Networks Operation (formerly Eon Systems)
00-00-C8	Altos
00-00-C9	Emulex	Terminal Servers
00-00-D1	Adaptec Inc.	"Nodem" product
00-00-D7	Dartmouth College (NED Router)
00-00-D8	3Com? Novell?	PS/2
00-00-DD	Gould
00-00-DE	Unigraph
00-00-E2	Acer Counterpoint
00-00-EF	Alantec
00-00-FD	High Level Hardvare (Orion, UK)
00-01-02	BBN	BBN internal usage (not registered)
00-17-00	Kabel
00-80-2D	Xylogics, Inc.	Annex terminal servers
00-80-8C	Frontier Software Development
00-AA-00	Intel
00-DD-00	Ungermann-Bass
00-DD-01	Ungermann-Bass
00-EF-E5	IBM (3Com card)	Microchannel interface (maybe not Ether number)
02-07-01	MICOM/Interlan	DEC (UNIBUS or QBUS), Apollo
02-04-06	BBN		BBN internal usage (not registered)
02-60-86	Satelcom MegaPac (UK)
02-60-8C	3Com		IBM PC; Imagen; Valid; Cisco
02-CF-1F	CMC		Masscomp; Silicon Graphics; Prime EXL
08-00-02	3Com (Formerly Bridge)
08-00-03	ACC (Advanced Computer Communications)
08-00-05	Symbolics	Symbolics LISP machines
08-00-08	BBN
08-00-09	Hewlett-Packard
08-00-0A	Nestar Systems
08-00-0B	Unisys
08-00-10	AT&T
08-00-11	Tektronix, Inc.
08-00-14	Excelan		BBN Butterfly, Masscomp, Silicon Graphics
08-00-17	NSC
08-00-1A	Data General
08-00-1B	Data General
08-00-1E	Apollo
08-00-20	Sun
08-00-22	NBI
08-00-25	CDC
08-00-26	Norsk Data (Nord)
08-00-27	PCS Computer Systems GmbH
08-00-28	TI		Explorer
08-00-2B	DEC
08-00-2E	Metaphor
08-00-2F	Prime Computer	Prime 50-Series LHC300
08-00-36	Intergraph	CAE stations
08-00-37	Fujitsu-Xerox
08-00-38	Bull
08-00-39	Spider Systems
08-00-3E	Motorola	VME bus processor modules
08-00-41	DCA Digital Comm. Assoc.
08-00-45	???? (maybe Xylogics, but they claim not to know this number)
08-00-46	Sony
08-00-47	Sequent
08-00-49	Univation
08-00-4C	Encore
08-00-4E	BICC
08-00-56	Stanford University
08-00-58	???		DECsystem-20
08-00-5A	IBM
08-00-67	Comdesign
08-00-68	Ridge
08-00-69	Silicon Graphics
08-00-6E	Excelan
08-00-75	DDE (Danish Data Elektronik A/S)
08-00-7C	Vitalink	TransLAN III
08-00-80	XIOS
08-00-81	Crosfield Electronics
08-00-86	Imagen/QMS
08-00-87	Xyplex		terminal servers
08-00-89	Kinetics	AppleTalk-Ethernet interface
08-00-8B	Pyramid
08-00-8D	XyVision	XyVision machines
08-00-90	Retix Inc	Bridges
10-00-5A	IBM		[misrepresentation of 08005A?]
48-44-53	HDS ???
80-00-10	AT&T		[misrepresentation of 080010?]
AA-00-00	DEC		obsolete
AA-00-01	DEC		obsolete
AA-00-02	DEC		obsolete
AA-00-03	DEC		Global physical address for some DEC machines
AA-00-04	DEC		Local logical address for systems running DECNET

	Thanks Borsodi Gabor

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 15:35:25 EDT
From:  Steven=Paulin%support%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Subject: Re: Banyan<=>Novell Connectivity

>In setting up a Novell 4.x network, I would like to know two things.

>1.  Can both the Novell stack and Banyan stack be loaded with out intefering
>with each other?

>2. Is there a product that enables the users of my Novell Network to use the
>services of the vines network.  I know of ENS, but that requires another
>computer for dedication.

>Please help!!!.  Any advice will be greatky appreciated.  I have Novell
>clients who will need to run programs on a vines server.

1) You can set up a dual stack/redirector environment without too much
trouble.  It requires the use of NDIS for the VINES functionality, and the
ODINSUP (ODI -> NDIS shim) from Novell.  Banyan technote # 261 goes into great
detail on how to configure this functionality.  Ask your VAR for a copy, or
get it off the Banyan support forums on compuserve or CSUS.EDU.  The first
client you set up will be a bit of a hassle, but once you've seen all the
pieces work together, you'll pick it right up.

2)  That's all you need.  If you want a more tightly integrated environment,
look into putting in ENS for Netware.  It's pretty slick, and provides all the
ease of use of VINES to you suffering Netware admin types.  If you combine
Banyan ENS for Netware with dual stack functionality (more commonly called ERS
for Enterprise Resource Sharing), you'll really have something your users will
LOVE!

---------

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:23:47 -0700
From: "Mark C. Stout" <mcstout@NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Banyan<=>Novell Connectivity

>In setting up a Novell 4.x network, I would like to know two things.
>
>1.  Can both the Novell stack and Banyan stack be loaded with out intefering
>with each other?

Yes!

> 2. Is there a product that enables the users of my Novell Network to use the
> services of the vines network.  I know of ENS, but that requires another
> computer for dedication.

You can use NDIS for the Banyan side along with ODINSUP.  ODINSUP has a .DOC
file that show you some sample configurations for a variety of different
stacks, Banyan and Novell being one of them.  You don't say if you need to
use Windows with the dual stacks.  I assume you do and you'll run into
having to re-boot in order to run either.  But there is a product called
WinNET Plus from Cogent Technologies that does a good job of integrating
both using their own WINNET.DRV file in place of NETWARE.DRV and VINES.DRV.
Now you can map/setdrive any drive setting you choose and drop and drag
between each NOS's file system.  For a $150/$75 (Single User/Each User
License) it's well worth it.  I use it and know quite a few more who swear
by it.

---------

>>>What procedures/drivers are needed to run Banyan/Vines and Novell on
>>>the same backbone and a single NIC in the workstation.  Each
>>>workstation runs MS-DOS 6.0 or greater, 4MB RA.
>
>>Your routers need to be able to pass both VINES-IP and IPX. Do you want to run
>>Banyan and Novell client software concurrently on the workstation, or
>>one-at-a-time? One-at-a-time is easy, use DOS 6.0 and higher's multi-boot
>>capability to set up 2 different autoexec files, have the user choose Banyan
>>or Novell, and branch to the appropriate driver. Concurrently is harder (much
>>harder if you also want to run TCPIP). Novell has documentation on it
>>somewhere, but the short stroy is you need to use the NDIS drivers for both
>>Banyan and Novell. A few folks here (much braver than I) have played with
>>concurrent setups, but loading both sets of client drivers eats up LOTS of
>>RAM, even when you load high as much as will fit. Most folks just boot one or
>>the other, and reboot when they need to switch. A few who REALLY need both at
>>the same time bought OS/2.
>
>I'll second what Tom said.  I'm running VINES, Netware, SNA and IP on my OS/2
>machine and it is nice.  I'm able to copy files from a netware drive to a
>VINES drive (or vice-versa) and run an app on my Novell server but spool
>output to my VINES printer.  I run win apps in separate sessions so if they
>misbehave, I can kill that process and not have my whole desktop come crashing
>down.  The worst part of the process was getting my Novell and VINES drive
>mappings straightened out.

Only one week ago we've connected a Banyan-server to a Novell-server. It
was a tricky business but it works!  In order to get Novell work with
Banyan, you have to make sure that the Banyan server is on the same
segment as your workstation were you want to work! Novell wouldn't pass
the broadcasts from Banyan through our sites. Only on the same segment!!!
Plus you have to have a Banyan Version 5.x! It doesn't work with Banyan
Vines 4.x.

Further on:

I work with a 3Com network adapter, so the example I give is one for a 3Com
adapter.

Your config.sys must have the following lines:
DEVICE=[path]\protman.dos /i:c:\[path]
DEVICE=[path]ELNK3.DOS

To make it work you can create a batch file (or add to your autoexec.bat):

@echo off
LSL
3C5X9
ODINSUP
BAN /NC
NDISBAN
NETBIND
ARSWAIT
IPXODI
NETX

Further on, make sure you have a correct NET.CFG
LINK DRIVER 3C5X9
  PORT 300
  FRAME ETHERNET_802.3
  FRAME ETHERNET_II
  FRAME ETHERNET_802.2
  FRAME ETHERNET_SNAP

PROTOCOL IPX
  BIND 1

PROTOCOL ODINSUP
  BIND 3C5X9

In the PROTOCOL.INI we have the following statements:
[PROTOCOL MANAGER]
DRIVERNAME=PROTMAN$

[VINES_XIF]
DRIVERNAME= NDISBAN$
BINDINGS= X3C5X9

After that you have drive mappings to your Novell and Banyan Vines Network.


Try this :

In config.sys file, add the following :
      device=<directory>\protman.dos /I:<directory>

In NET.CFG add the following :
	Protocol ODINSUP
		bind <network driver>

In AUTOEXEC.BAT or NETSTART.BAT the following TSR should be loaded :
	LSL
	<network driver>
	ODINSUP
	BAN /NC
	NDTOKBAN (token ring, can't recall NDIS driver 4 ethernet or ARCNET)
	NETBIND
	REDIRALL
	VLM

For your VINES configuration, running PCCONFIG the hardware configuration
selected should be
	NDIS Token Ring,  NDIS Ethernet or NDIS ARCNET

Of course watch around with the drives mapping. Vines first login drive
default to Z: where as if you put LASTDRIVE=Z in config.sys will make the
Novell first search drive as Z: as well.   I suggest you put the lastdrive
to say W instead.

	Thanks Borsodi Gabor

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:01:57 GMT
From: Chit Wisuthseriwong <wisuthseriwong.chit@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV>
Subject: Re: console-cmds from dos prompt

>I'm looking for a utility to issue netware console commands
>(NW 3.12) from my dos-workstation (e.g. "modules").

Search for rc.zip and vcon.zip on ftp.novell.com or your local mirror.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 07:58:18 -0800
From: Mark Hashiguchi <markh@OHSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Finding the first drive letter for login -Reply

> Does anyone know of an FTP site where I can get a FREE
> utility which I can run after loading NETX to determine the
> initial drive letter which is being used for the d:\LOGIN
> directory?  I'm specifically looking for a program which
> will put the drive letter being using into an environment
> variable.

Try GET.EXE. Syntax is "get ye". This produces an environment
variable get=D where "D" is the current drive letter.

Anonymous ftp to oak.oakland.edu in /pub/msdos/batutil/get24.zip

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:38:16 +0000
From: Steve Martin <Steve@MULTITONE.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Server DOS partition

>>>You already have the tool -- it is called rconsole.
>>Oh? How do I copy something on my local client hard drive to
>>the DOS partition of the server?

NWSHELL.NLM is far more powerful for copying stuff to/from the
server's DOS partition.

It also lets you attach to other servers and map "drives" to them
via the console.

Host bunsen.hrz.uni-marburg.de    (137.248.1.6)
    Location: /pub/netware/nlms
Host ra.ee.cit.ac.nz    (156.59.209.20)
    Location: /pub/bugboard/novell/utils

-------------------------

In reply to bevenson@silver.sdsmt.edu who was looking for SFT III type
solutions.  There are three that I know of and have looked at:

1. NetWork Integrity's LANtegrity ( Probably the most interesting
   product). It can act as a hot back up for multiple servers, as well
   as being a "backup" solution - including duplicating tapes for offsite
   storage) Call 508-460-6670  - 201 Boston Post Road West; Marlborough,
   Massachusetts 01752  fac 508-460-6771

2. VINCA  801-223-3100 4000 Central Park East; 1815 South State St.
   Orem, Utah 84058  fax 801-223-3107 or phone 1-800-934-9530

3. NetGuard Systems - 609-844-7544- 993 Lenox Dr.; Lawrenceville, NJ
   08648; fax 609-844-7543

Helene Rosenblatt

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:14:45 -0400
From: Maxx25807@aol.com
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Satellite Training

Tomorrow morning 0900-1100 PST there will be a satellite broadcast by
Novell...

"C" Band  TelStar 401  97 Deg. West Ch 17
"Ku" Band  Galaxy 7  91 Deg. West  Ch 10

They broadcast the first Wednesday of each month...

0830 is the test period... you should get a test color bar and some tunes...

If you don't have a dish... call your Novell and they will tell you the
closest place for you to go watch it...

------------------------------

I don't think BrightWorks SiteLock is on the market any more - it was
superseded by SiteMeter (distributed in the UK by Technocom plc of
Slough, tel: 01753-673200, fax: 01753-538415. Last time I looked (about a
year ago) there was strong competition over at least some of SiteMeter's
range of functionality from a product called SofTrak, which I think
Technocom also deal with.

Martin Taylor
m.taylor@elsevier.co.uk

---------

Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:29:33 +0000
From: Leighton <leighton@CRIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Please Recommend Metering software

I have found that Sitemeter by Mcafee is very good. If you are
metering only network software you only have to load an NLM but you
can also meter software on a workstation by use of a TSR. You do not
have to use the TSR if you are only going to meter network software.
You can get a full working demo copy at www.mcafee.com. It has also
been ranked as the best metering software by I believe LAN magazine.
And Mcafee is by far the best priced of all the other products. I
believe that we paid around $2000.00 for a copy that could be loaded
on as many servers we wanted to. They go by the number of users and
not per server pricing.

I don't recommend Frye utilities or Symantec's metering software. You
have to load a TSR on the workstations for them to meter anything.
Frye and Symantec charge per server pricing. and it would have cost
us $5000 and $9000 to use their software.

When I talked with the software support staff at Symantec they told me that
there is no possible way to meter network software without a TSR.
Which makes me wonder about the quality of their staff.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:39:27 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Login script quirk

	Just a quick note on a curious aspect of login scripts.
	The NW 3 system login script file sys:public\net$log.dat
can't exceed 16KB or the remainder is lost. I added some material
tonight to that item and lost all kinds of valuable things while
tonnes of users were active. Opps. Headscratching while running
in circles very quickly revealed the underlying problem.
	The cure was to clip out great chunks into another file.
Then, in the system login script, put back that material logically
but not physically by using line
	include sys:public\filename

	Joe D.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:33:44 -0500
From: John Bazeley <johnb@JSBUS.COM>
Subject: Re: NLM developers list ?

>Is there a list like this one dedicated to NLM developers ?
>I'm writing a program and want to discover the home_directory
>attribute for a Nw4 Nds user. Source samples or help are welcome !

There is a novell developers' list at nwp@lists.pipex.com.

To subscribe, send mail to listproc@lists.pipex.com, with the
body of the message

	subscribe NWP Firstname Lastname

Traffic is low, with topics kind of evenly split between client
and server developers.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:37:57 CETDST
From: David Hanson <afrc-mis@EMAIL.AUGSBURG.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Lan Diagram Software

>Easy (Ms Windows, no classes needed) Lan Diagraming software package.
>I don't care much for automatic recognition of objects but really want
>something that supports a database style of maps with records/fields etc.

I have used NetViz, and I really like it.  The two best things about it
are the ability to store the database information within each object, and
the way it defines links and moves the links when you move objects (this
is the biggest problem with PowerPoint, et al, IMHO)....around $500.

---------

I've been using "Clicknet" here for 6 months or so, and I've found it
to be pretty good. Lots of pretty pictures of clouds and other
wonderful net things! <grin>. The database is in MS Access form so
it's no speed demon but may be queried outside of the basic program
and/or linked with other programs.

Richard Phillips

---------

Visio Technical.  List price ~$249.  Should be available for ~$200.

Scott Peterson

------------------------------

Subject: Re: OSI 7 layer model

>Can anyone give me a description or direct me to a detailed description
>of the OSI model (7 layers).  I need to do some research on this topic.

Term: OSI

Author: Newton, Harry

Open Systems Interconnection. The only internationally accepted
framework of standards for communication between different systems
made by different vendors. ISO's major goal is to create an open
systems networking environment where any vendor's computer system,
connected to any network, can freely share data with any other
computer system on that network or a linked network. OSI was developed
by the International Standards Organization. Most of the dominant
communications protocols used today have a structure based on the OSI
model. Although OSI is a model and not an actively used protocol, and
there are still very few pure OSI-based products on the market today,
it is still important to understand its structure. The OSI model
organizes the communications process into seven different catogories
and places these categories in a layered sequence based on their
relation to the user. Layers 7 through 4 deal with end to end
communications between the message source and the message destination,
while layers 3 through 1 deal with network access.

Layer 1 -- The Physical layer deals with the physical means of sending
data over lines (i.e. the electrical, mechanical and functional
control of data circuits).

Layer 2 -- The Data Link layer is concerned with procedures and
protocols for operating the communications lines. It also has a way of
detecting and correcting message errors.

Layer 3 -- The Network layer determines how data is transferred
between computers. It also addresses routing within and between
individual networks.

Layer 4 -- The Transport layer defines the rules for information
exchange and manages end-to-end delivery of information within and
between networks, including error recovery and flow control.

Layer 5 -- The Session layer is concerned with dialog management. It
controls the use of the basic communications facility provided by the
Transport layer.

Layer 6 -- The Presentation layer provides transparent communications
services by masking the differences of varying data formats (character
codes, for example) between dissimilar systems.

Layer 7 -- The Applications layer contains functions for particular
applications services, such as file transfer, remote file access and
virtual terminals.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:18:13 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: How can I get a network card address

>>I know that servers determine the different addresses of network cards
>>and was wondering if there is any software out there that could return a
>>network cards ID to me. I was hoping to store it as an environment
>>variable.
>
>The program SETSTAT will do that for you. It simply creates the dos
>environment variable STATION to reflect the machines mac address.
>
>grab it from   ftp.mechnet.liv.ac.uk
>          as   /novell/freeware/setstat.exe
>         and   /novell/freeware/setstat.txt
>
>Roy Coates
----------
	Here's another way to the same problem. MACID becomes a DOS
environment variable. P_STATION is the 12 character representation
of the 48 bit MAC address (hex). The example trims off the left most
half, which is the vendor ident since all my boards are the same and
I wanted to save typing, and keeps the right most serial number part.
At the end I clear the environment of MACID since it's not needed
afterward in my case.
	The MYIP and MYGW DOS environment variables are passed to
MS-DOS Kermit. CAPTURE gets names indentifying the row/column location
of each PC in the lab.
	Joe D.

machine name="station%STATION"
set MACID=P_STATION << 6
if <MACID> ="13C523" then
set MYIP="129.123.30.01"
set MYGW="129.123.30.62"
#f:\public\capture /l=1 /q=dot_matrix /ff /tim=30 /notab /nam=r1c1 /noban
#f:\public\capture /l=3 /q=laser /noff /tim=40 /notab /nam=r1c1 /noban
#f:\public\capture /l=2 /q=color /noff /tim=40 /notab /nam=r1c1 /noban
end
if <MACID> ="13C427" then
set MYIP="129.123.30.02"
set MYGW="129.123.30.62"
#f:\public\capture /l=1 /q=dot_matrix /ff /tim=30 /notab /nam=r1c2 /noban
#f:\public\capture /l=3 /q=laser /noff /tim=40 /notab /nam=r1c2 /noban
#f:\public\capture /l=2 /q=color /noff /tim=40 /notab /nam=r1c2 /noban
end
	etc etc
set MACID=
-----------------
	Finally, at the end of the system login script I have Win95
versus regular bootup sensing:

if OS_VERSION >= "V7.00" then
     map del s5:
     map ins s2:=f:\win95
     map ins s3:=f:\win95\command
     map ins s4:=f:\win95\user
     #sys:\win95\command\attrib +r c:\command.com
     #sys:\win95\command\attrib +r c:\net.cfg
     #sys:\win95\command.com /c copy f:\win95\user\system.dat c:\
     #sys:\win95\command.com /c copy f:\win95\user\user.dat c:\
     #sys:\win95\command\attrib +r +s +h c:\system.dat
     #sys:\win95\command\attrib +r +s +h c:\user.dat
else
     #sys:\dos\attrib +r c:\command.com
     #sys:\dos\attrib +r +h c:\net.cfg
endif
drive c:

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 00:21:30 -0700
From: Virendra Rode <virendra@NEXUS.CHAPMAN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Toronto Area Netware User Group

>I am trying to find out if there is a Toronto area Netware User Group

Email Frank Goodyear (frank.goodyear@nuilink.com) who happens to be the
President for NUI. He will be more than happy to help you with any
NETWARE USERS GROUP question.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 17:24:15 GMT
From: "Stephen M. Dunn" <bokonon!stephen@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Subject: Re: Extra users in Netware 3.12?

>Novell does give you a few extra connections. Mostly for printers and
>server connections I think.

   This answer varies depending on the version.

2.x:  Your license count is your license count, and anything on the
server which needs a connection counts against it.  For example, ARCserve
(if memory serves) uses up two connections on NetWare 2.x.

3.x:  Your license count is for connections external to the server.
NLMs running on the server which require service connections get assigned
numbers starting at your license count plus one (e.g. connections 101 and
up on a 100-user license) and do not count.  Anything external to the
server which requires a service connection does count, even if it's just
a print server.  Ditto for NOT-LOGGED-IN users; they count, too.

4.x:  There is the additional concept of licensed vs. unlicensed
connections.  NOT-LOGGED-IN, for example, is an unlicensed connection
and does not count.  Connections within the server itself, such as
for PSERVER or backup software, are also unlicensed connections.

   But if you're hoping to use those "extra" connections to allow you
to hook up more concurrent users than your license permits, you're
out of luck.

------------------------------

Novell has a nifty utility called CONFIG.NLM.  You load it from the console
and it takes a snapshot of your server configuration including NLM versions
and driver versions and puts the information in an ASCII text file that you
can find in SYS:SYSTEM.  It is available on Netwire and the filename is
CONFG2.EXE which contains versions for Novell 3.x and 4.x as well as
documentation.  It's a pretty handy utility.

Karl Funderburg

------------------------------

Here's a link to everything you need to know about ethernet...

	http://mojo.ots.utexas.edu:80/ethernet/

Gunnar Jensen

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:30:12 -0500
From: Adam Morey <Amorey@POP3.STX.COM>
Subject: Re: AUTOEXEC.NCF in DOS partition

>I went to make the changes to an AUTOEXEC.NCF on a Netware 3.12 server.
>When I rebooted, it ignored them all.  Further

If an autoexec.ncf exists in the same dos directory you started server.exe
then it will ignore the one in sys:system

>investigation revealed a copy of AUTOEXEC.NCF in the dos partition with
>STARTUP.NCF  My primary technical contact there seems to think it has to
>do with having first created STARTUP.NCF for the buffers below 16 MB line.
>When I rename the copy in the DOS partition I get a prompt for server
>name - so it is not seeing the one in SYS:SYSTEM

In order to use the autoexec.ncf in the sys:system you must have a
startup.ncf that loads your disk drivers.  It goes without saying that the
sys volume must mount before the server will run the autoexec.ncf.  In your
case you probably have the disk drivers loaded in your autoexec.ncf.

A good reason to load the disk drivers in your autoexec.ncf is to run the
register memory command before you load the disk drivers - this is a fix for
some EISA servers where netware 3.x wouldn't register all availabe memory.

I use an autoexec.ncf on the dos partition on all my servers.  I prefer the
security features of only being able to change the autoexec.ncf through
rconsole and the edit.nlm.  There is a lot to be said about editing the
autoexec.ncf of a downed server in the dos partition.

I put a dummy autoexec.ncf in all system directories with a few lines like
"The autoexec.ncf is run from c:\netware" just for documentation purposes.

---------

Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 04:13:28 GMT
From: "Stephen M. Dunn" <stephen@BOKONON.USSINC.COM>
Subject: Re: AUTOEXEC.NCF in DOS partition

>I went to make the changes to an AUTOEXEC.NCF on a Netware 3.12 server.
>When I rebooted, it ignored them all.  Further
>investigation revealed a copy of AUTOEXEC.NCF in the dos partition with
>STARTUP.NCF  My primary technical contact there seems to think it has to
>do with having first created STARTUP.NCF for the buffers below 16 MB line.

   Probably; RTFFAQ for more information on why you might wish to
do this.

>When I rename the copy in the DOS partition I get a prompt for server
>name - so it is not seeing the one in SYS:SYSTEM

   This means that you're not loading your .DSK driver in
STARTUP.NCF, which is consistent with the 16 MB boundary
workaround.

>It is very confusing when you go to edit it in the standard
>place SYS:SYSTEM or syscon and your changes have no effect, so
>I'd like to configure it properly - any insights anyone?

   Sure.  Put the following at the top of SYS:SYSTEM/AUTOEXEC.NCF:

rem * The actual AUTOEXEC.NCF can be found in C:\SERVER.312.    *
rem * This one is a dummy.  Don't bother changing it.  It won't *
rem * work.  Change the one on the C drive instead              *

   I'm serious!  You might also want to put a note in STARTUP.NCF
mentioning why the disk driver is not being loaded there and
pointing to the real AUTOEXEC.NCF.

   SYSCON will never let you edit the one on the C: drive, but
from the server it's easy enough to do - use EDIT.NLM, which
does have access to the C: drive.

---------

but [SYSCON] will if you tell it you want to edit the startup.ncf file
then when it prompts you for the name you use c:\~~~\autoexec.ncf

Peter@teacup.demon.co.uk

------------------------------

From: Steven Shippee <shippee@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:54:16 EDT
Subject: faq submission

I work in an environment wherein people work 7 days a week 24 hours
a day.  Translated = tough to down the server at anytime.  I recently
had to update some errant LAN drivers and NLM's.  So I did the "unbind"
/ "unload" exercise of the old drivers, copied new files/drivers to
SYSTEM subdirectory, and redid the load and bind statements -- all to
no avail (as the old stuff was still in memory).

I had to down the server for the new drivers to "take".  No error
messages were generated, but typing CONFIG showed old copyright dates,
not the new ones of updated LAN drivers/NLM's.

Thought others should be aware of this...

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:50:08 GMT
From: Daniel Tran <dtran@UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Re: deleting empty directory on 3.11 server - READ THIS

>>I also have a directory which won't go away. It *appears* to be empty,
>>I have looked for hidden files with flag and attrib, flagdir n, yet
>>it still gives the DOS message; Invalid path, not directory, or
>>directory not empty. Have also tried deltree and killdir without
>>success. When I try to delete it with Filer, it says Directory not
>>empty.

>I have just tried KILLDIR again. Although it didn't delete the
>directory, it did show a file (or DIR) that nothing else would show -
>DESKTOP.AFP.  This looks like a MAC file, when I type "del
>desktop.afp", I get; "All files in directory will be deleted! Are you
>sure (Y/N)?y". Press <enter>, then I get "File not found". It may be
>that this file/dir has to be deleted from a MAC workstation?? or
>maybe vrepair REMOVE MAC NAMESPACE. We are not using MAC's at the
>moment so I may just leave it in the "Too hard basket" for the time
>being.

DESKTOP.AFP is indeed created when you load afp.nlm on your server.
Sometimes, when the desktop got corrupted then you will need to unload afp
then load it again with "load afp cdt" (cdt - stands for create desktop -
I think).  When you load afp, it will create five different things, I don't
recall what they are but you can see it at the console.

Dayna has a desktop repairer which runs on a Mac. You may want to download
that from ftp.dayna.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:52:34 GMT
From: Teo Kirkinen <kirkinen@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject: Re: Scanner across the net

>>Recently we got a scanner Epson GT-6500 with a bi-directional pararell
>>board.  This board can be configurated as LPT1 or LPT2.  We use it as LPT2.
>>The question is:  Can be configurated this scanner as a printer?  I
>>mean, create a queue, a "printer" and attach it to the queue, and doing a
>>RPRINTER in the pc that has the scanner localy, access the scanner across
>>the net?
>
>No, because there is no connection between the PC and the
>"printer"/scanner via netware queue! (Also a queue is a one way
>operation).
>Any you have to walk to the PC to place the material to scanned so what
>could you gain by going via netware queue?

HP has a new scanner, Scanjet 4si which is directly connected to the
ethernet and understand Netware accounts -- bindery only ;-(

I haven't tested one yet so I don't know how it works but I suppose
it has an internal hard disk where the scanned images are stored and
the user's can retrieve their scannings via the ethernet.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:57:56 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Disk suballocation, Novell's recommendations

	The current issue of Novell Developer Notes has a short article
on disk suballocation. In a box are five guidelines of interest, summarized
below:
--------
	1. Load all of the patches from both 410PTx.EXE and 410ITx.EXE. This
cures some problems with suballocation. The next sentence is quoted exactly
"These patches have been tested and are recommended by Novell Engineering."
(jrd - So that's the word on 410ITx.EXE.)
	2. Use a disk block size of 64KB on all volumes where suballocation
is enabled. It's the fastest and most efficient arrangement.
	3. Keep 10 to 20 percent of the volume space free to avoid the
suballocation Aggressive mode. Disk space management is essential to avoid
problems with suballocation. Make sure there is always 10 to 20 percent
available disk space on all volumes (SERVMAN, NWADMIN, NDIR /VOL etc).
	4. Maintain a minimum of 1000 free blocks on each NetWare volume
that has suballocation enabled. Suballocation used free blocks to perform
its function. When free blocks are low, suballocation could go into Aggressive
mode, lock the volume, and cause high utilization. Maintaining more than
1000 free blocks will prevent this problem, in most cases. Do say PURGE /ALL
from the root of the volume. This will free the Afreeable limbo blocks and
more tehm back to Afree blocks.
	5. Set PURGE flag on all directories that have large amounts of
temporary files created. Each temporary file that is created will be put on
the Adeleted file list. These files are kept on the disk until a purge is
run. In order to avoid disk space and free block problems you nee to set the
PURGE flag on specific directories that create large number of temporary
files. You can also avoid this problem by setting IMMEDIATE PURGE OF DELETED
FILES=ON.
----------
	I think most managers know to do PURGE /ALL frequently. What is new
to me are guidelines 3 and 4, which boil down to leave work space. That 10
to 20 percent guideline looks to be way beyond reason for transitory work
space, so there must be more to the story than we have here.
	Joe D.

------------------------------

From: Jonn Martell <martell@UCS.UBC.CA>
Subject: Re: utility to check max. # of connections

>Is there a way to check the maximum # of simultaneous connections that
>have taken place on the server since the last time it was downed?

Nconsole does this quite well.  The eval is available from
http://www.avanti-tech.com/~prodinfo/

The cost of the product is about $300.

---------

>Is there a way to check the maximum # of simultaneous connections that
>have taken place on the server since the last time it was downed?

Users /c from John Baird's utilities (almost certainly on
netlab2.usu.edu) will do this.

	Dave Brisbane

---------

Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:09:17 +0000
From: "Mr. R. Coates" <roysan@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject: Max Connections

For the people who wanted it, MAXCONN is available from:

	ftp.mechnet.liv.ac.uk/novell/freeware/maxconn.exe

All it does is show the current server name, the maximum number of
connections it can support, the most connections ever used at once,
and the number of connections _currently_ in use.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 10:44:19 -0400
From: PK <pkarrel@TRENTU.CA>
Subject: Re: Boot Image Files

>I don't know if I'm searching for a lost cause here but does anyone
>know of a third-party utility that can be used to 'edit/hack into'
>netware boot-image files? I know I can simply dosgen up new ones but
>it would make my life a lot easier as I have quite a few to change.

Yes mapgen will do it. I got it on a disk from lanworks. It map the
image file in memory as if it was drive a: so you can edit it. Try doing
an archie search .

	Paul Karrel

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:45:54 -0600 (MDT)
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: patches (Joe D's included)
To: shippee@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil

Steven,
	I purposefully load all the patches, to see what will happen
before a large number of people run into problems. That is by design.
In addition, I make the choice that non-destructive patches are there
to solve problems before they occur, not afterward. As we know, the
art is in selecting the benign ones, and for my installation I trust
my engineering nose.
	I have had crashes from such things. When that happens I make
a noise on the net right then, and often there is a fix made available
very rapidly. The record for this is NFS for NetWare when about 5 min
elapsed between my posting and Novell's response to me that the msg
was being read by the designer, and after returning from class an hour
later I had a brand new NLM. My followup went to the list, just like
the original statement.
	I can't make your judgments, clearly, but if my system continues
to work well with all those things tacked on then yours stands a fair
chance of doing the same. I don't do these things for fun; I need my
systems fully operational all the time except for some brief experimental
windows. Now we see the reason why I do "test flights."
	Most of the patches are as new to me as to everyone else. A few
come through my hands earlier on, but only a very few. I can't say more.
	The FAQ shows what I run on a production basis, and feel comfortable
with.
	Joe D.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 18:43:21 -0500
From: Debbie Becker <dbecker@clark.net>
Subject: Re: Netware Splash Screen

>When running VLM's, is there a way to have the Novell Netware splash
>screen not display when Windows loads?

Edit the NETWARE.INI file. Under the [Options] section, add the following
line:

DisableLogo=1

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:29:08 GMT
From: "Lyle W. Bingham" <lwb@ITSNET.COM>
Subject: Re: netware 3.11 SFT III

Another mirroring solution for Novell 3.11 is
Vinca StandbyServer 32 with AutoSwitch.

It can provide mirroring to a second server(Which doesn't need
to be identical to the main server, it just needs adequate storage)

In fact, it doesn't even need to be a new stand-alone server.  You
can use a second, existing server to provide mirroring to the
first, using StandbyServer 32's Utilityserver feature.

Call Ken Sorber (801) 223-3100 x 143 for more information or
mailto:info@vinca.com or look at http://www.vinca.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:55:59 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Help docs for 4.1

>Some time ago I downloaded 3.12 help files from Novell's ftp site.  The
>files are in Windows via Dynatext.  Does anyone know if similar help files
>are available for 4.1?
----------
	The complete manual sets for NW 3.12, 4.02, 4.10 are available in
DynaText form (a superset of ElectroText) from at least netlab2.usu.edu
in directory epub (that's pub/mirror/epub for folks going to Unix machine
netlab1.usu.edu, same files). They may also be available via Novell's WWW
server but I have no dug deeply there recently.
	Be aware that Novell removed the epub directory about a month ago,
with no notice nor pointers elsewhere. Since such things have happened in
the past due to mistakes and snafus I have retained those valuable manuals
in the above location. The last thing I want to do is touch shoddy Netscape
to get them. Further, they are impossible to mirror via the all to cute
html pointers all over the place. KISS still applies.
	Hint to Novell's pub folks: putting the manuals back in epub as
regular files would be a good thing since they are popular download items.
	Joe D.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 06:43:23 GMT
From: Steve Cargill <SteveC@BITMAP-BROTHERS.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: LanTastic + Netware

>Can Netware coexist with Lantastic on the same cable?

Yes.  Here we have Novell 3.11 with 2 nic's, each doing half the
office with it's own cable using 802.3.  We also have some PC's
running Lantastic 5 on the same cable.  They seem to work quite
happily together.  In Lantastic there is an option to use Novell
aswell.  You load Lan'c then run VLM and you can have drives mapped
to both system at the same time.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 05:54:17 GMT
From: Teo Kirkinen <kirkinen@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject: Re: running vrepair

>Vrepair will not run automatically, you will have to load it...

Netware 4.1 will run vrepair automatically unless you have
SET AUTOMATICALLY REPAIR BAD VOLUMES = OFF in STARTUP.NCF.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:09:01 +0000
From: Jon Hall <jmah@ISVR.SOTON.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Multiple login

>We are using two Novell servers. The software and data are on diffrent
>machines. This means that users have to login to two Novell servers.
>I know it is possible to login to two Novell server by entering your
>username and pasword only once. The problem is I dont' know exactly
>how to do this.

If the username and password are identical on both servers, then an
ATTACH to the second server will work without specifying the username or
password.

>For passing the username the environment variabele LOGIN_NAME can be used.
>But how do pass the password. Is there a environment variable that contains
>the password in an encrypted way ? If so, it is easy to make a mapping to
>the other server ?

There is no access to the entered password, either encrypted or
unencrypted. The only cases where entering the password is not necessary
for an ATTACH are

(A) Username and password match on both servers - see above;
(B) The password is null;
(C) The password is explicitly specified on the ATTACH (this only works
    if the ATTACH is done from the login script, not from the keyboard).

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 16:51:04 -0500
From: John Bazeley <johnb@JSB.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Copy Inhibit

>How do I copy inhibit a file in a windows/NW3.12 environment?

Answer, you don't. CI is a Mac thing.

If it's a .exe file you're trying to protect, and it's
a pure DOS non-overlayed .exe, you can set the execute
only bit. Beware this is a one-way trip (unless you get a
hold of the XAWAY program.)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:16:10 -0500
From: JST604@aol.com (Joe Thompson)
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Re: Maximum Files Per volume

>I have just found out that even though my 11G drive is only
>56% utilized & directory space is 44% full I have actually
>reached my "theoretical maximum" file limits. I have a Novell
>Document TID1202046 that explains why I am out of memory.
>
>Is there a utility somewhere out there that will calculate
>the actual limits on a volume and report where you are really at?

We just had the same thing happen to us..an 11GB volume with 760 user dirs,
apps and E-mail.  Our problem wasn't that we ran out of memory, it's that we
ran out of directory entries (our server has 448 MB of RAM and only 36GB of
storage so we're well stocked as far as RAM goes).

We first saw this problem when the deleted files weren't purging so we backed
it up, nuked the volume and did a file by file restore (took 17 hours).
Everything was fine until I ran a batch job to deploy the Lotus Suites node
files to the user directories on this one fileserver.  There were only 127
files altogether so, after doing the math, I figured I was OK.

Half of the way through I got the "Unable to expand directory for
server/volume directory entries exceeded "  error.   Then users began to get
access denied and unable to create file errors.

Well we finally got that document you spoke of and we could see why this
happened.

Here's the big problem (at least as I see it):

A directory or file is considered a directory entry however, when you make
a subdirectory it will reserve a 32 directory entries.  Also, once you add
over 32 files into that suddirectory an additional 32 are reserved and
so on.

To make matters worse, addtional name spaces take additional directory
entries...so add NFS and you lose about half of your available directory
entries.

If you hit the 2 MB directory limit with the reserve then no more 32
directory entry blocks are issued, you can't create additional
subdirectories or add files in any subdirectory with an exact multiple
of 32 (so some users will get an error and some won't)

Basically the only way to truly have 2 MB of directory entries is to have
one directory per volume.  Practical huh?

Our answer is to split our user volume and have Apps and E-mail on their
own volumes.  We were planning this anyway but this problem moved up our
time frame.

To answer your question, neither NDIR or SERVMAN.NLM give the correct
response they both add up the empty directory entry slots available in all
subdirectories and report that.

I think they should distinguish between directories and directory entries.
like maybe a subdirectory structure potential or give a number that assumes
all subdirectory block are full etc.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:33:30 -0500
From: "Brian L. Anderson" <banderso@CAVALIER.DARTNET.PEACHNET.EDU>
Subject: Re: Logging into file servers

>I am running Novell 3.11 with one server.  If I wanted to add another
>server, would I just connect the new server to one of my ethernet hubs?
>Can I log in to both servers at the same time?

You "log" into one server at a time, but while logged into one server you
can "attach" to other servers and "map" drives for access.  Execute:

	login server1/user

then from that server execute:

	attach server2/user
	map g:=server2\sys:\directory path

This would give you server1 with whatever drives you have mapped from that
login, and server2 would be drive g: currently at whatever directory you
fill in for path.

The two different passwords will be asked for.

You can put this all in your login script and if you set the passwords
the same then you will only have to enter it for the initial server.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:05:45 -0500
From: "Eliot T. Ware" <etware@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>
Subject: Re: NT server, NT Wkstn, NetWare 4.1, Win95, Win3.x all on 1

>Would like to set up 2 PCs to each support ALL of the below listed
>configurations:
>
>NT 3.51 server
>NT 3.51 workstn
>NetWare 4.x server
>Windows 95 stn
>Windows 3.x stn
>
>Want to be able to bring up any machine in any mode.
>Have 800 Mb and 1.2 Gb drives at my disposal.
>Have the appropriate other reqd devices and network peripherals on HCL.
>
>Recommendations on partitioning strategy and order for loading the above
>would be greatly appreciated.

There is a product called System Commander from V Communications, Inc. that
is designed to provide precisely this support. Phone 408-296-4224.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:25:51 CST
From: Hans Nellissen <dbphilos@UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE>
Subject: Re: Mounting DOS Partition as volume ??

There is an NLM called Mountdos. I find it at
ftp.rz.fh-hannover.de/pub/novell/uti

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:10:50 -0600
From: Mark Barton <mbarton@ACCESS-ONE.COM>
Subject: Re: 50 to 100 user upgrade - HOW?

>I received my disk to increase my users from 50 to 100 with NO INSTRUCTIONS.
>Surprise? I have searched Novell support and two CNE manuals and all my
>workbooks, but no directions.Can anyone help!

First off, depending on which version of Netware you have will make a
difference in how you perform the up grade.  In 3.12 down the
fileserver, take the first diskette (the one in the envelope) and copy
the file server.exe to your dos partition.  Reboot the server,
upgrade complete.  In 4.10, the licenses are stackable and can be
added by loading Install at the console.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:11:09 +1200
From: "Baird, John" <BAIRD2@WHIO.LINCOLN.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: lost f:login directory

>On a netware 4.1 server I accidently moved (using windows 95) the
>sys:login directory into another subdirectory... I moved it back and
>then didn't think anything else of it.  When a department changed shifts
>and the second shift employees went to login and they received the
>following messages after connecting to the server.
>
> Volume in drive F is SYS
> Path not found
>
> f:>
>
>What gives?

You need to either dismount/remount SYS, or reboot the server. The login
directory is treated differently from any other because it is the only one
visible prior to login, and Netware seems to do this by taking note of the
directory entry number for this directory when SYS is mounted. Your
replacement login directory will use a different directory entry, hence
the need to remount SYS.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:15:29 +1200
From: "Baird, John" <BAIRD2@WHIO.LINCOLN.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: NW 3.12: How to delete NET-ACCT.DAT?

>I have a rather large net$acct.dat file in my sys:system, since we have
>accounting enabled on our 3.12 LAN. My sources tell me I can simply
>delete it if I (as Supervisor) desire to do so, however, the system
>won't let me. How can I do this? Alternatively, how can I (temporarily)
>disable accounting?

The file is flagged Transactional, so you need to remove this
(flag net$acct.dat n) before attempting to delete it.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:01:09 -0700
From: Randy Grein <rgrein@halcyon.com>
To: "NetWare 4 list" <netw4-l@bgu.edu>
Subject: Re: Problems w/ Server

>Server is a Compaq Prosignia 500 and we're running NetWare 4.1 with most
>(if not all) latest patches.
>
>I've run DSRepair and Vrepair with no luck. We've got two mirrored
>Baracudas and until I unmirrored them, the server would keep abending
>withing 1/2 hour of resynching (has been up for 1 1/2 hours after
>removing mirroring). (Abend type: page fault processor exception
>running process: server.) Again as noted, each time I tried going into
>NetWare debug mode the server would restart.
>
>Any ideas would be welcome. Also, short of restoring from tape, is there
>ANY possible way to get back all file and directory attribute and creation
>information? I have put a call into our SE, but have yet to hear back from
>him and of course 1-800-netware wants $200 up front! :)

Load Servman, and under the memory section turn the first 5 settings to
on - read fault, write fault, page fault, etc. Check insight manager for
clues, then Get Alexander Lan's Server Protection Kit - not only does it
do an even better job of protecting against misbehaved NLMs but it does a
VERY good job of automatically creating a crash file.
Check out   http://www.alexander.com.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:33:00 -0400
From: RBall84213@aol.com
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Re: probs with autoexec.ncf?

>Out of nowhere, one of our 4.1 NDS servers now asks for the Server
>name and internal net address when reloading.  It has never done this
>before, and the information is in the auoexec.ncf file.  The format
>is correct because it works on our other servers.  the autoexec.ncf
>can't be totally corrupt, because the other commands, (mount, load
>comms tpe stuff) all works as per normal.>>

Did you change your boot sequence prior to this problem
occuring?  Your server must be in directory c:\nwserver
*before* running server.exe .  Otherwise the server requests
exactly this information.  Your AUTOEXEC.BAT should read:

	c:
	cd \nwserver
	server

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:28:43 +1200
From: "Baird, John" <BAIRD2@WHIO.LINCOLN.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Connection > 250 = Problems ?

>Over the past couple of days I've been experiencing some strange problems.
>We are running Netware 4.1 on a couple of Compaq Proliant's.  When people
>are using Trumpet News (for DOS) and Davis Harris' Notice program (also
>DOS), people do no seem to be able to access their mail directories,
>resulting in all sorts of error messages.
>
>Is there a problem with Bindery emulation that results in problems if the
>connection number is greater than 250 ?  Any patches ?  Just wait until
>4.11 ?

The problem lies with the applications. There were written using either
the old C interface or early versions of the Client SDK. Although both
used WORD values to store connection numbers, the upper byte was ignored.
If David wrote Notice using the Client SDK, then all he needs to do is
rebuild it using a later version, but I suspect if this was the case, he
would have done so already. David's HOME program will also fail for
connection numbers > 255, as will the Word Perfect Office Shell and
other old Netware aware utilities which make use of the connection
number.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:42:20 EDT
From: BTI Consultants <75053.2431@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: NetWare Connect: Problem found

ATTNASI.EXE (from Win2NCS) was causing all my workstations to lock up when
exiting Windows.

Moving the ATTNASI.EXE entry BEFORE the NETDDEX.EXE entry in the WIN.INI
LOAD line fixed the problem.

Thx KnowledgeBase but somebody at Novell should look at fixing SETUP.EXE.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:34:00 PST
From: Tom Petzold <tpetzold.JSCHQ@EPO.COM>
Subject: Really weird login script problem

It's a known bug.  Here's Novell's info

1) If you have groups that are identical except for the last character, the
   "if member of <group>" statement in a login script will
   result in a true outcome regardless of whether it is, in fact,
   true or not.

I have to thank Mark Schoonover for the correct pointer.  You guys are good.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:32:05 +0200
From: "Arthur B." <arthur-b@ZEELANDNET.NL>
Subject: Re: Directory Entries

>One of our volumes seems to have hit a limit on the number of directories
>that can be created on it.   The NDS Netware Administrator shows the
>following details when clicking on the volume/statisitcs button.

Why does it seem to have hit a limit?
Can't you create directories anymore?

>Directory Entries:
>Pie Chart (sector green) showing 19%
>Total : 2,097,152
>Available: 1,681,113

Seems to me your problem is that you have more then enough directories
available.

>I should say that these figures are  how it stands at the moment.
>I cleared several hundred empty directories from the server when
>I noticed the problem.

Bingo!
The only way to get rid of the overflow of available directory entries
is to recreate the volume.
But why should you it's not that much in the way.

>The SET MAXIMUM PERCENT OF VOLUME USED BY DIRECTORY parameter is 30%.  I
>have found increasing this number does not affect the overall directory
>entries in the NDS statisitcs.   Is this parameter relevant to my problem?.

You could decrease it.
You have more then enough entries waiting to get filled.

>Thank you for any help given.

Maybe someone at Novell should write an util that can get rid
of a overflow of available directory entries.
Afterall the maximum allowed number increases automaticly when needed
(until it hits the absolute max offcourse) but it doesn't decreases.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:14:30 +1300
From: "Baird, John" <BAIRD2@WHIO.LINCOLN.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Directory cache buffer settings for BIG directories?

>I have a 3.12 server that's suffered a dramatic slowdown recently.
>It's a 486DX266 CPU with 32MB RAM and 4GB disk space, there's about
>60% of memory available for caching.  The system is used for only
>one purpose - to host a Clipper based database system that is
>accessed by only a couple of users.
>
>The system is a personnel database with scans of photos and
>signatures for ID purposes.  Unfortunately all of the files are
>stored in a single directory - there are over sixty thousand (yes
>60K) files, totalling a couple of GB.  There's not a lot of file
>creation/deletion going on.
>
>A similar problem happened sometime ago and was fixed by increasing
>the number of directory cache buffers but this time they've yet to
>reach the current limit. (max 2500 currently 2000).  The server as
>been up for 553 days!
>
>The problem is most apparent during backups where, I presume, lots of
>work with directory lists is done.  Does anybody have any experience
>with directories of this size or suggestions about which of the other
>directory cache settings it would be most effective to change?

Assuming only the DOS name space, your directory of 60,000 files will use
1875 dir cache blocks if all the directory entries are held in cache at
once. The first thing I'd try, assuming you dont have a general shortage of
memory, is to get some more dir cache blocks allocated.
Unfortunately the maximum value for the minimum directory cache buffers is
2000 which is too low (at Lincoln University all servers have the minimum
set to 2000 and the number allocated exceeds this at the end of startup).
Try setting the "Directory cache allocation wait time" to a smaller value
than the default of 2.2 secs. You may be able to ascertain beforehand if
a lack of dir cache buffers is a problem. Chose a directory which noone else
is using and do a 'dir'. If there is a delay before the display begins, but
no delay if you issue the 'dir' command again immediately, then a delay if
you wait a while before issueing it yet again, then a shortage of dir cache
buffers is almost certainly a problem.

I would look very closely at other statistics available within monitor
in case your problem lies elsewhere. As an example, late last year, users
on one of our two (almost identical) student servers, began experiencing
very slow logins when classes began, but after the burst of activity caused
by classes in multiple labs beginning at the same time, there was no
further problem until the next class started. The various stats shown by
Monitor for the two servers were very similar, the number of students logging
into each was similar, there were no errors being reported in the NIC stats,
nor by the router to which the servers were connected, and traffic levels were
similar. But by observing the stats while the problem was occurring I noticed
that the adaptor queue depth on the 'slow' server was peaking at over 100,
whereas the same statistic for the other server stayed in single figures.
Replacing the NIC eliminated the problem.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:26:58 GMT0BST
From: Kens Mail List Host <MAIL@DRL.OX.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Anyone know why this batch line fails?

>Floyd Maxwell wrote:
>>
>> The following batch file line fails, displaying an
>> "illegal function"...on a DOS/Win 3.11 machine
>> running C32 on NW 4.11.
>>
>>   copy \\ServerName\sys\login\test.tst c:\
>>
>> whereas the more conventional
>>
>>   copy z:\login\test.tst c:\
>>
>> works fine.  Any idea why?
>
>UNC naming convention will *not* work on a dos/windows
>box.  It must be 95 or NT for that to work....

This is not quite true. They certainly do work using the VLMs, I'm not
sure about Client32 but I would assume Novell would have maintained
compatability.

However, there is a strange problem with the copy command and UNC paths.
Copy appears to map the directory the file is being copied from to the
current drive letter. Thus, if the current directory was C: when the above
command was run it would attempt to map the directory to C:. This may be
the cause of the illegal function call.

Most DOS commands however do seem to work with UNC paths. Type for
instance works fine and doesn't change any mappings.

---------

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:16:09 -0700
From: Floyd Maxwell <floyd@DIRECT.CA>
Subject: Re: Anyone know why this batch line fails? -- WRAP UP

A digest of what works and does not:

 - UNC works via Ncopy, Xcopy or copy in Win95, and
   possibly WinNT (I just can't stand using the OS
   long enough to try it)
 - UNC works via DOS if "logged" to the network drive
   before executing the command
 - All variations of UNC, including:
     copy \\servername\volumename\dirname\filename c:\
     copy \\servername:volumename\dirname\filename c:\
     copy \\servername\volumename:\dirname\filename c:\
     copy \\servername\volumename\\dirname\filename c:\
   submitted by numerous kind souls, FAIL with "illegal
   function"...at least on my machine.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 12:21:31 +0100
From: "Mr. R. Coates" <roysan@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Requester Command

>I'm trying to setup an unattended work station -- thus, logging
>in and everything else has to go w/o any user input. The problem is,
>sometimes the login script gets halted because a cast message comes
>through.
>
>What I want to know is; is there a requester command for the
>NET.CFG to turn off cast messages? If so, what is it?

If I remember correctly.. the 'castoff all' that you seem to be looking
for talks to the shell only, and not to the server. This means that
having loaded the drivers on the pc, you should be able to invoke a
local copy of 'castoff all' BEFORE attaching to the net.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:35:07 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dosgen,NOVELL,BOOTPROM

>	I really really need your help.  I have recently redid a network.
>Its running novell 3.11, going to upgrade to 4.11 soon.  It did run i-class
>i formatted the HD, now i can't get the bootprom to bootup, it freezes on
>remote program loader.  I have logged in as supervisor, chagned to the login
>directory put a network disk in a drive, typed in dosgen a:, then copied all
>the files needed.  It won't work.  Someone please help before i have to make
>30 network disks!!!
----------
	Obtain file updates\nwos\nw311\rplkt4.exe from the Novell archive
servers. It has much commentary on the several kinds of remote boot roms
out there and how to deal with them.
	Joe D.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:47:24 +0000
From: John Wells <jwells@PACIFICCOAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Novell 4.11, 3.12 & NT in a single box

>Without System commander software, is it possible to  do
>this?  Can Windows NT dual boot can handle it.

Not in my experience. When I tried it, I realized that you can have only one
Netware partition on a drive. And since each Netware partition can have only
one SYS: volume, you can have only one version of Netware on a drive.

To have multiple versions of Netware on a system, you'd need the ability to
choose the disk to be booted from, at boot time.

>Also, if I want OS/2, Win 95, Novell, NT installed in one box
>is it possible?

Should be. Check out the white papers (especially "Creating an Optimal
Multi-OS Environment with Partition Magic") at www.powerquest.com.

---------

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:27:45 +0000
From: Richard Klemme <rklemme@OZNET02.OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Novell 4.11, 3.12 & NT in a single box

>>Without System commander software, is it possible to do this?
>>Can Windows NT dual boot can handle it.

Dont know, but probably you would have to boot to DOS & run
SERVER.EXE there (but obviously not from within NT..).

>>Also If I want OS/2, Win 95, Novell, NT installed in one box is it
>>possible?

Yes, I am doing this at the moment using System Commander (I have
DOS 6.22, Win95, OS/2 v3, NT 3.51 & 4.0 beta2, Novell 4.11 beta).

I don't know if you are aware that you can run the  Netware Server
under OS/2 and if you have the Client running at the same time so
you can login into this "server" from this same session. I find it
helpful especially for CNE study and also to see what 4.11
has in it. To install it run INSTALL.CMD from the OS/2
prompt. You can set how much memory Netware and OS/2 share.
This is called Netware for OS/2 and it is mentioned in the install
manual that comes with 4.1 and in more detail in "The Complete
Guide to NetWare 4.1" by James Gaskin on Sybex Press.

---------

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:56:58 +1000
From: Mark Cramer <m.cramer@QUT.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Novell 4.11, 3.12 & NT in a single box

>>Without System commander software, is it possible to  do
>>this?  Can Windows NT dual boot can handle it.
>
>Not in my experience. When I tried it, I realized that you can have only one
>Netware partition on a drive. And since each Netware partition can have only
>one SYS: volume, you can have only one version of Netware on a drive.

Correct

>To have multiple versions of Netware on a system, you'd need the ability to
>choose the disk to be booted from, at boot time.

Why? The Netware server.exe doesn't have to be on the boot disk, and neither
does the Netware partition. The real problem is that when you load the disk
driver for say IDE, Server.exe goes out and checks ALL drives on that channel
for the NW partition with the Sys volume on it, and mounts it.

So you can't have a NW3.12 AND a NW4.1 server on the same disk, or the same
IDE channel, or scsi card (though you could have 4.1 on the primary IDE and 3.x
on the secondary, and load the ide driver with the appropriate port settings),
though you could have them on seperate scsi cards.

>>Also, if I want OS/2, Win 95, Novell, NT installed in one box
>>is it possible?

Yup and you could add dos/win3.1 and Linux as well, I know someone who runs
most of these, mind you, you need to keep a copy of your MBR/Partition table,
as some of these will take pleasure in trash^h^h^h^h^hreplacing your MBR if you
do a reinstall.

>Should be. Check out the white papers (especially "Creating an Optimal
>Multi-OS Environment with Partition Magic") at www.powerquest.com.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:08:51 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Underscores in server names

>Will underscores in server and printer names cause problems with
>NetWare IP?
>
>We know that a change is in the works for IP--going away from
>underscores to hyphens and we want to be ahead of the game with
>NetWare.
>
>My feeling is that it is easier to remember if everyone gets rid
>of underscores--then no one will get confused when naming devices,
>but we'd like to have some hard reasons to give to the community
>besides cause we said so.
---------
	Underscores are verboten. They are often synomyms for spaces.
Use hyphens/minus signs. Also don't start names with digits. Treat
names as if they were acceptable to IP general work, which is the
situation sooner or later. Please check the RFCs for the doc which
has name spelling rules (too busy to look it up right now).
	Joe D.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:27:00 +0100
From: Urban Svensson <urban@DKK.SE>
Subject: Problem creating files on Netware 4.1 - Please Help - Reply

Check Directory Entries in Filer to see what the percentage of  available
directory entries is. If it is low - say 20 % or less  - run PURGE on the
volume and try again. You get all sorts of different errors when You  are
out of available DEs of which two are the most common and I think Out Of
Disk Space is one them.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:31:42 -0500
From: Rick Troha <rickt@NWSUP.COM>
Subject: Re: Utility for Setting Passwords without Supervisor Status

>I'm looking for a utility that will allow me to give trusted users rights
>to change other users passwords without giving them supervisor status.
>(Currently running Novell 4.1 with NDS, no BINDERY EMULATION !)

Check out PASSADM.ZIP at:

http://www.novell.com/corp/programs/ncs/toolkit/nw4tools.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:15:40 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: NW 4.10/4.11 PentiumPro SMP or AMP?

>1)  Is NetWare 4.10 or 4.11 optimized for the Pentium Pro?

	No, not "optimized." NW 4 runs on 386's and up.

>2)  In an Intel, multi-processor platform, I heard that SMP was not
>supported but that AMP (Asymmetrical) was supported in that it could be
>configured for one processor dedicated to the AIO link and the other to
>normal 4.1x server operations.

	More or less terminology and side efffects folks attribute to them.
	It supports SMP, just as the name of the product indicates. Computer
engineering folks become concerned about which processor owns which resources
at a given time, particularly within interrupt service routines. To see just
how worried and confused folks can get on this matter read Microsoft's NDIS
3/4 spec some time when you need lots of sleep. NetWare 4/SMP has processor
associativity controls deep down to avoid much of the overhead of
reestablishing context too often when threads of execution change.
	For more details I would recommend attending Novell's Developer's
Conference and talk with the designers. To get answers right now obtain
a pre-release copy of NW 4.11/beta and test your environment.
	Joe D.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:19:00 +0100
From: "David W. Hanson" <hansond@AFRC.GARMISCH.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Why has Novell plagued me with this message??

>When a password expires in netware 4.1 the message you get is
>something like "You have 3 grace logins left to change your password,
>do you want to change it?"
>
>Of course our users think "No, I don't want a new password, I won't
>change it".  When all grace logins are used up their password expires
>and they cannot get in. Why couldn't Novell have made the message say
>something like "Listen here user, your password has expired and if you
>don't change it right now you will be locked out forever".
>
>Which brings me to my point, is there some way of changing the
>message it gives, either by and add-in or changing a message file?

This has plagued me as well.  The best I could easily come up with
was to use the following near the end of the login script:

IF "%PASSWORD_EXPIRES"="0" THEN BEGIN
  WRITE "************************************************************"
  WRITE "*                                                          *"
  WRITE "*  YOUR PASSWORD HAS EXPIRED.  YOU MUST CHANGE IT NOW.     *"
  WRITE "*                                                          *"
  WRITE "*  YOU MUST ANSWER YES TO THE QUESTION AND CHANGE YOUR     *"
  WRITE "*  PASSWORD WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT.  IT IS NOT         *"
  WRITE "*  OPTIONAL.  IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD,          *"
  WRITE "*  YOU WILL EVENTUALLY BE LOCKED OUT OF THE NETWORK.       *"
  WRITE "*                                                          *"
  WRITE "*  It must be at least 5 characters and/or numbers, and    *"
  WRITE "*  it must be different from your last 5 passwords.        *"
  WRITE "*                                                          *"
  WRITE "************************************************************"
END

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:52:08 CST6DST
From: "Darryl F. Wright" <DARRYL@TIL.KELLY.AF.MIL>
Subject: Re: Why has Novell plagued me with this message??

>A Norton Text Search of \PUBLIC reveals that LOGIN.EXE and MAP.EXE
>mention the "You have %d grace logins..." business.  It shows as
>plain text and could be changed I imagine...the %d still needs to
>be there I believe...but maybe move it to the end of the line or
>change the whole thing from:
>
>You have 3 grace logins left to change your password
>	  ^ %d
> to
>
>You must change your password now!!!  "T minus 3..."
>						^ %d

This is very similar to what I did. I used Norton Disk Editor to
Change the text "Do you want to change your password" to "You MUST
change your password! (Y/N)"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:17:54 -0600
From: "Mike Avery" <mavery@pernet.net>
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Re: scheduling nlm

>>I need an NLM (or some other netware utility) that is NDS-aware that will
>>allow me to broadcast messages to specific container groups/objects at
>>specific times each evening.  I found one (Netctrl.nlm) but it is not NDS-aware.
>
>Check out:
>
>	http://www.podell.com/podell/
>
>There are others, but here is one that comes to mind.

Steve Podell has a nice program, but his product is more of a console
extender than a scheduling program, although it does have scheduling
functions.  It has a very nice console front end, and is quite
stable.

However, I like another Steve's product better for scheduling
functions.  Steve Meyer of Avanti Technology produces a number of
NLM's.  His scheduling NLM is much better at scheduling
Check http://www.avanti-tech.com and get an evaluation copy of
Avanti's TaskMaster program.  It is a much nicer scheduler, and it
also extends the console.  One of my favorite extensions is the
ability to purge files from the NetWare console, or as a timed job.
(Although, Podel's product will do that also.)  While you're at
Avanti's home page, also look at NCONSOLE - it's a nice Monitor and
limited RCONSOLE replacement.

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:05:38 +1000
From: Greg J Priestley <Greg_J_Priestley%PKF@PKF.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes NLM's

I would strongly recommend AGAINST running the NLM versions of Notes.

Why?  A number of factors.  The Netware platform has low priority for Lotus
these days.  NT is becoming the "core" version.  Notes 4.x did not make it
to the Netware platform until the 4.1 revision.  It has been slow in
getting the same updates (i.e. 4.11 as the other platforms even though
there are some major issues including a memory leak which will kill your
server after a few days.

The NLM versions have never been 100% stable and on top of your server can
cause great havoc.  For instance, trying to shut it down is likely to abend
Netware or just freeze that module requring a re-boot before it will work
again.

How do I know this?  One of my clients is probably the largest Notes NLM
user in Australia.  Because of all the issues with stability and getting
problems resolved (and being slow to get the latest developments), they are
presently migrating all of their Notes servers off Netware and consolidating
it onto a highly speced NT server (they are consolidating 6 NLM servers
into 1 (moving to 2) NT servers at one site - this is not to reflect huge
performance differences, it was a redundancy and fault tolerance design).

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:09:00 -0600
From: Jon Johnston <jon@CBSMSP.MSPHUB.COM>
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes NLM's

The things I would caution you about are:

1. Running Notes on the server can slow down the normal day to day file
and print processing, as Notes will be constantly indexing, possibly
replicating, compacting databases, and other maintenance tasks.

2. Make sure you overkill memory

3. None of the Notes "add on" products run as NLM's. If you need MTA
products, for example, you'll need either OS/2 or NT.

Otherwise, we've had no problems with Netware servers and Notes.

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:08:48 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: 3.XX Bindery

>>>[VRepair] is recommended, by Novell technicians to be run on a regular
>>>basis.  Don't wait for a volume to go
>>
>>Utter tosh. we never run vrepair on the 50+ fileservers here unless the
>>volume will not mount. it is unneccessary. Netware 4 fileservers run it
>>automatically when mounting a volume if it determines it is necessary.
>
>If you have the money, call Novell.  You'll be very suprised that VREPAIR
>IS a recommended utility.  After you have found out, you can admit you
>are wrong.  Please note that I am referring to 3.XX NOT 4.XX servers!
>BTW, what on earth does "Utter Tosh" mean? I speak English not British. :-)
--------------
	To save burning ears I'll translate. "Utter tosh" can be
equivalenced to "rubbish" in the UK, and to BS in the US and civilized
portions of Australia. Canadians may have accent marks, as appropriate.
	To clarify the issue, here is my position on running Vrepair.
	For NW 3 do run Vrepair periodically. I have had two servers slowly
destroy the bindery from flakey disk and power supply systems and I worked
long and hard to rescue then before nothing functioned at all (they got so
bad Vrepair would not work, period).
	For NW 4 it is optional and a good idea if the server is not
rebooted for very long times. As Richard remarks, NW 4 defaults (you can
change it) to running a quicky Vrepair at boot time. Flakey systems need
stronger help than this, so run Vrepair on suspect machines while they are
still suspect.
	Finally, removal of name spaces requires Vrepair.
	And we keep in mind that any program digging that deeply into file
structures can occassionally do more harm than good if the symptoms are
just right. After all, Vrepair was written by humans. Thus we do not
blindly enable all changes without our approval.
	Joe D.
P.S. For language-philes, if tosh is not so nice then what's posh? Yes, it
too is of British origin, and does not mean what most people think. To the
dictionary. Hint: temperature and sun.

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:20:00 -0500
From: "Leone, Michael" <mleone@RICHARDSONCO.COM>
Subject: A bit of tosh about posh

Joe D. asked:
>P.S. For language-philes, if tosh is not so nice then what's posh? Yes, it
>too is of British origin, and does not mean what most people think. To the
>dictionary. Hint: temperature and sun.

Well, the origin of posh comes from: "port out, starboard home", referring
to which side of the ship your stateroom was located on British luxury
cruises of the late 19th century.

This bit of highly off-topic trivia brought to you by an American of
Italian descent, with an interest in highly off-topic trivia <G>.

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:32:23 -0600
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: A bit of tosh about posh

[above message re-quote snipped]
	My, what a well read audience. All are very close: port out,
starbord home. But it refers to passage of the Red Sea on the trip between
Britian and India (typically). Believe me, the afternoon sun in the Sahara
has to be experienced to be appreciated. Now we know why it's posh rather
than soph. Lucky/influential passengers got the cooler accomodations, no
matter what class ship, and hence the loose modern definition of "rich."
	Joe D.

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:35:32 -0500
From: WBrianT@aol.com (Brian Talbert)
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Re: Netware & NT on the same machine.

I have a small network at home that I use for testing purposes, continuing
education, etc.  I have one machine setup with Win3.x, WIN95, NT4, and
Netware 4.1.  Nothing special is required, though a more elegant solution
could probably be achieved with third-party utilities.

I had originally put WIN95 on this machine as the only OS.  I already had
a lot of data on it so I started from there.  Using Partition Manager, I
re-arranged my partitions slightly so that I had plenty of space for a
Netware partition and for an NTFS partition.  I then installed NT.  NT
created a new boot partition that allows me to choose between NT and
Windows95.   I edited the boot.ini file so that Win95 was the default.

To install Netware you simply choose the Windows95 option and then press
"F8" to then go into command line only mode.  From this mode you can
install Netware.  Since I often am using Win95 when I decide I want to
try something out in NetWare, I also created an icon pointing to the
server.exe file, using a custom config.sys and autoexec.bat.  This works
very nicely.

Installing and older version of Windows3.x works the same way.  Just use
Windows95s real mode DOS.   Install the OS.  I also created an icon on my
Win95 desktop to go into old windows, using a custom config.sys and
autoexec.bat to load CD rom drivers and sould drivers.

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:58:48 +0100
From: Petr Jaklin <3net@3NET.ANET.CZ>
Subject: Problems with JCMD

There were several problem reports on JCMD/NW4.11 last days. Core of
problems is change of behavior of some CLIB function in 4.11 (scanf()).
As result, JCMD has problem with parameter parsing.

Please use version JCMD 1.35 on NW4.11 . It is available, e.g. on
netlab2.usu.edu/sys/anonftp/incoming/jcmd_135.zip (will be in apps in
the future).

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:40:44 -0600
From: "Gus Alfonzo" <galfonzo@ionet.net>
To: "NetWare 4 List" <netw4-l@bgu.edu>
Subject: Re: Managewise Ins

>The 2.1 version is a demo from Novell and it is supposed to
>install under Windows 95, but it apparently doesn't. 

I also had problems installing the demo, until I realized that when
they say "16 MB RAM required", they mean 16 MB of *free* RAM.

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 96 02:29:14 -0800
From: Randy Grein <rgrein@halcyon.com>
To: "NetWare 4 list" <netw4-l@bgu.edu>
Subject: Network Var Articles, Network Diagnostics

Several months ago I promised to try to get a copy of my first article on
Network Diagnostics to the group. It's taken a while, but here's the deal:

Point your web browser at http://www.networkvar.com; those that work for
VARs can sign up for a free copy. If you don't work for a VAR don't
dispair, they're posting all the back issues there. Just check out the
Sept. '96 issue!

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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1997 14:12:34 -0600
From: "Mike Avery" <mavery@mail.otherwhen.com>
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle on Netware

>>Does anyone know of performance review(s) for Oracle on different
>>x86 platforms? Specifically, I am looking for a comparison between
>>NT and Netware 4.x running Oracle.
>
>I've seen a few claims by Oracle that the Netware version is MUCH
>faster, especially with SMP but can't point you to any reviews. It
>would be a good test though, wouldn't it? Have you chekced with
>Oracle or Novell?

Unless something has changed, the last time I looked Oracle made you
promise to not print benchmarks of their product.  Part of the
license agreement.

As to Oracle under NetWare, here's my view.  I won't work in a
NetWare/Oracle shop, and I'd rather not work in an Oracle shop at
all.

Under NetWare, the product is, in my experience, unstable and a
maintenance hog.  You can't back up the data bases with most backup
programs - first you have to export the data bases and back up the
exported data or you have to shut down the data base engine.  Any
changes to the environment tend to cause instabilities.  Forget about
just installing the recommended Novell patches...

Another matter is that Oracle seems to have an insatiable appetite
for system resources.  Disk space, CPU, and memory.... all will be
gobbled up.

I would rather see Oracle running on another platform, and my real
preference is to see it on a platform I don't have to support.  Best
of all would be on my competitors systems.

My view is somewhat jaundiced, and it has been about 2 years since I
looked at Oracle under NetWare.... but once burned, I tend to avoid
the fire.

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Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 07:36:44 -0500
From: Jeff Masteller <jmast@earthlink.net>
To: netw4-l@bgu.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle on Netware

>ANY database server is a resource hog. I'll admit I haven't worked with
>the product personally, but do know a couple of people who do. The two
>big changes that make it useful are SMP Netware, and backup agents. SMP
>Netware is scalable; Oracle's own tests show it under Netware SMP to
>scale linearly to three processors, and the 4th processor adds another
>90% of the first processor. In contrast NT with virtually anything
>requires 4 processors to nearly double it's performance; something that
>even Microsoft's test show.
>
>Seagate has an SMS TSA for oracle, and I believe that Cheyenne is also
>working on something, but you could use the TSA with most backup >products.

We are a Netware/ORACLE shop so here are a couple of things...

1 I agree with what is above
2 Oracle on Netware is much faster then NT
3 Oracle on Netware is stable and reliable
4 Oracle on NT is now a tier 1 product... first for upgrades and patches
5 Oracle for Netware is a tier 2 product... 2nd for upgrades
6 NT is more stable with ORACLE
7 Oracle and Micrrosoft compete in the database market and now in
  the OS market (internet PC's)... so you know what that relationship is
8 Unless you are running 24 hours a day, you can do an export and    
  shutdown the database before the backup runs

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