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                   ALT.DRUGS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
                        (The New Miscellaneous FAQ)
                Maintained by:    gnosis@brahman.nullnet.fi
                Special kudos to: lamont@hyperreal.com

                         *** The QuickFAQ(tm) ***
                  [Asking any of these will get you shot]

* Where can I get the drug FAQs?

  From hyperreal.com by FTP, Gopher or WWW.

* I can't FTP/Gopher/WWW, can you mail me a FAQ...

  No.  Read on (end of part A).

* Is there strychnine in LSD (acid)?
* Will banana skins or peanuts get me high?

  No.  Read on (part C, questions 1 and 15).

* Is there a recipie (sic) for LSD/Ecstasy/speed...?

  Recipe, no; synthesis, yes.  Read on (part C, question 4).

                         *** The Extended FAQ ***

Note: This is *not* an attempt at a comprehensive FAQ on all aspects 
of
all drugs, that's what the individual drug FAQs are for.  Instead, 
this is a
guide on how to behave in alt.drugs, how to use net resources and an 
answer
to some *really* frequently asked questions.  Part A covers general 
stuff
regarding alt.drugs and net, part B lists the FAQs, and part C gives 
slightly
more detailed answers to the questions above and more.

A) The alt.drugs hierarchy

   alt.drugs is a forum where people who enjoy the use of mind-
altering
substances, not necessarily even illegal ones, get together to share
information and swap stories.  If you are against drug use and post 
about
it, be prepared to have lots of references and solid info on hand, 
since
otherwise you WILL be flamed.  Also, don't even THINK about trying to 
buy
drugs on alt.drugs...  you won't get any, period.

   alt.drugs is subdivided into a number of groups.  In addition to 
alt.drugs,
which covers everything without its own group, there are the 
following:

alt.drugs.caffeine       Coffee, tea, and more exotic caffeine 
sources.
alt.drugs.chemistry      Manufacture, extraction, etc.
alt.drugs.culture        Trip accounts, music, etiquette, etc.
alt.drugs.pot            All forms of cannabis and everything related 
to it.
alt.drugs.psychedelics   LSD, DMT, mushrooms and company.
alt.drugs.usenet         The most addictive drug of all!  A joke 
group.

   Most of the groups are relatively new and thus not received by many
sites.  If your site does not receive them, ask your sysadmin to add 
them.
In addition, there are some drug-related groups not under alt.drugs:

alt.coffee               Coffee, with and without caffeine.
alt.drunken.bastards     Abusers of the drug ethanol.
alt.hemp                 Various uses of the plant, focus on 
industrial use.
alt.psychoactives        Primarily nootropics, ie. "smart drugs".
alt.smokers              Nicotine addicts' discussion group.
rec.food.drink.beer      Beer discussion.
sci.med.pharmacy         Technical discussion about pharmaceutical 
drugs.
sci.med.psychobiology    Technical discussion about legal 
psychoactives.
talk.politics.drugs      The politics of drugs.

   Rumors abound about the Feds/the cops/the DEA monitoring alt.drugs,
but evidently nobody has been busted/investigated *solely* because of
posting.  But if you're going to admit to something illegal, it's a 
good
idea to post it via an anonymous server.  Just mail your message to
alt.drugs@anon.penet.fi, and the rest is magic.  For more details,
mail help@anon.penet.fi.

B) Other FAQs (WHICH I WILL *NOT* MAIL TO YOU)

   The following FAQs are posted regularly:

   Weekly:   alt.drugs FAQ, Drug-Related Network Resources FAQ
   Biweekly: Addresses FAQ, FTP Instructions FAQ, Natural Highs FAQ
   Monthly:  Anti War-on-Drugs Activists' List, The Drug Price Report

   There are a whole bunch of FAQs for individual drugs and drug 
classes,
which are posted highly irregularly.  All of the above as well as all 
of
the following can be found at hyperreal.com in the directory 
/drugs/faqs
thru FTP/Gopher/WWW.  If you can't connect, the problem is at your 
end,
not hyperreal's.

   Absinthe, Bibliography, Bong-Pipe, Caffeine, Cannabis Hemp 
(alt.hemp),
   Codeine, Dextromethorphan, Ecstasy, Eating Marijuana, Grain 
Alcohol,
   Gravity Bong, Growlights, Institute for Hemp, LSD, LSD-Tattoo, 
Marijuana
   Consumption, Marijuana Law, Marijuana Myths, MDMA (Ecstasy), MDMA
   Synthesis, Methamphetamine (Speed), Morning Glory, Natural Highs
   Australia, Neuropharmacology, Nutmeg, Opioid, Opioid Analgesics,
   Psilocybe Mushroom, San Pedro Potency, Smart Drink, Solvents, 
Tryptamine
   Carriers, W

   For instructions on how to FTP, go over to news.announce.newusers
and get the help files, or buy a book on using the Internet.

   If you can't use FTP, Gopher, WWW or other services that need a 
direct
connection, fear not, you can use the FTP-by-mail services!  Here's a 
list
of server addresses, mail a message consisting of the word "help" to 
one:
ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com, ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu, bitftp@pucc.bitnet

C) Really Frequently Asked Questions

   All directory and file paths refer to hyperreal.com.

1. Is there strychnine (rat poison) in LSD?

   No, there is no strychnine in LSD.  EVER.  It is physically 
impossible to
fit enough strychnine on a blotter tab to cause an effect; besides, 
since
strychnine is expensive and the manufacturing process never uses it, 
there's
absolutely no point in putting it there.  (No, it does not bind the
LSD to the paper or carry it across the blood-brain barrier or...)
Large-scale lab analyses of street samples have never found ANY 
strychnine
in LSD.  The 'speedy' effects of acid, often attributed to the 
mythical
strychnine, are in fact caused by a bad set and setting, not 
impurities in
the drug.  See the LSD FAQ and /drugs/psychedelics/lsd/strychnine.

2. Does LSD leave crystals in your brain/spinal fluid that cause 
flashbacks?

   No. LSD is water soluble and entirely cycled out of your system 
within
a few days.  Full-fledged "pathological" flashbacks can be caused by 
any
traumatic or extraordinary experience, including an LSD trip, but are 
not
directly caused by the drug.  See the LSD FAQ.

3. What happens if I take LSD while I'm on Prozac or other 
antidepressants?

   With SSRIs like Prozac, the effects of psychedelics are reduced 
greatly;
however, the medical consequences are unknown.  Do NOT mix 
psychedelics with
MAOIs, TCAs or lithium.  If you have a story, mail
kbonson@helix.nih.gov who
is doing a study on this.  In general, avoid mixing the two.

4. I have a recipe for making LSD with moldy rye bread and hair 
spray...

   No.  The -synthesis- of LSD is a very, very difficult process that
requires dangerous chemicals and lots of experience in organic 
chemistry.
Check out http://hyperreal.com/drugs/faqs/synthesis.html (also 
available
by FTP) for information on the synthesis of GHB, LSD, MDMA, 
methamphetamine,
methcathinone and N2O.  If you don't understand the synthesis, go read
organic chemistry, we can't put it "in English" for you.

As for some of the more famous recipes:
LSD from apple cores:   No.
LSD from moldy rye:     A laboratory (not kitchen) can extract LSA, a 
related
                        substance.  See 
/drugs/psychedelics/lsd/ergot.culture.
LSD from morning glory: Another extraction of LSA, see the Morning 
Glory FAQ.
Meth from inhalers:     An extraction of l-methamphetamine, a much 
weaker
                        substance than real meth.

5. Can you overdose on acid/pot?

   No, overdosing on pot would require smoking several KILOS of the 
stuff
within 15 minutes.  Assuming you did manage this feat, you would 
instantly
throw up most of it.  Overdosing on LSD is equally difficult.  There
is a case where a number of people snorted a massive overdose (equal 
to
around 1250 hits) of pure LSD tartrate, believing it to be cocaine; 
some
of them fell into comas and had other severe physical reactions, but 
lived
through the experience with no permanent physical or mental damage.

6. What is Ecstasy (E, XTC)?

   Ecstasy should be 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), but on
the street it is often a close chemical relative like MDA or MDE.  It
may also on occasion be a mixture of unrelated chemicals like LSD 
and/or
methamphetamine (speed).  Contrary to popular belief E is *not* laced
with heroin, heroin costs too much, is very different in its effects, 
and
is not active orally; the only possibility is a heroin/MDMA mix for
snorting or injecting.  What people think of as effects caused by 
heroin
are often just MDA or MDE.

7. Does MDMA cause brain damage/Parkinson's disease/deplete spinal 
fluid?

   No, although investigations on possible brain damage continue; 
there
is certainly no drastic brain damage though.  The Parkinson's rumors 
come
from a journalist confusing MDMA with MPTP, a product of screwed-up 
opiate
manufacture which has nothing at all to do with MDMA.  See the MDMA 
FAQ.

8. Are shroom kits legal, and do they work?

   The spores in the kits contain no psilocybin, so they are legal, 
except
in California.  They work, but only if you're willing to put effort 
into
growing.  See the Psilocybe Mushroom FAQ and 
/drugs/psychedelics/mushrooms.

9. Will marijuana do <X> to my body?

   Marijuana does *not* cause brain/immune/reproductive system damage,
concentrate in the brain/testicles, enlarge breasts in males or damage
chromosomes.  It *can* cause lung ailments such as cancer, and driving
while stoned *can* cause accidents.  MJ smoke is *not* 10 times worse 
than
tobacco, they are roughly equal, it may even be less harmful.  See 
Marijuana
Myths or the Cannabis Hemp (alt.hemp) FAQ for more details.

10. I just got a microdot of synthetic mescaline...

   No.  An effective dose of mescaline would not fit in a microdot or
on blotter, and mescaline in the black market is extremely rare 
anyway.
Most of what is called mescaline is in fact LSD.

11. My friend told me that pot is often laced with acid...

   No.  Pot is one of the cheapest drugs around, and just about 
anything
added to it would make it more expensive.  If somebody tells you that
their pot was laced, almost always it just means they got hold of some 
really
good pot and/or just got much more stoned than usual.  If the pot was 
laced
with acid, the acid would be destroyed by the heat when you smoked it.
Occasionally pot laced with PCP, opium, or heroin is available, if so
you will be told since it costs much more.

12. Help, I have a piss test next week and...

   To summarize: Stop smoking and drink water.  8 glasses a day for 
two
weeks should put you in the clear, but even a week is often 
sufficient.
Supplements like Golden Seal are not necessary.  Also, most urine 
tests
cannot detect LSD or psilocybin.  See /drugs/politics/drug.testing.

13. What is "skunk"?

   Skunk is a type of hemp (cannabis).  It originally meant Cannabis 
indica
in general, but over the last 20 years has come to refer to a name of
particular sativa/indica cross. While Dutch skunk is famous, the name
did not originate there (although the cross now known as skunk may 
have).

14. What are the monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs)?

   The drugs Nardil (phenelzine) and Parnate (tranylcypromine) and 
plants
containing harmaline, namely passionflower, Banisteriopsis caapi and 
Peganum
harmala.  THAT'S IT!  Prozac, MDMA, beer, wine, cheese, chocolate etc
are
things you should AVOID when on a MAOI, they are *not* MAOIs 
themselves.

15. Can I smoke or eat <X> to get high?

All of the following either don't work or very little is known about 
them.
Funny as it may seem, black market drugs are probably safer.  
Substances
marked with (*) are very dangerous and can -KILL- you.

Banana skins:   No, the Anarchist Cookbook's "bananadine" is a myth.
Chia pets:      No.
Cloud 9:        No, it contains only a bit of ephedrine (a mild 
stimulant).
                A cup of coffee is much stronger.
Coke & aspirin: No, and aspirin is lethal in high doses. (*)
Cough syrup:    Yes, if it has dextromethorphan (DXM).  Some DXM cough 
syrups
                will make you sick though, see the Dextromethorphan 
FAQ.
Dramamine:      Yes, but it's *really* nasty stuff.  Hallucinations 
that seem
                like reality and no euphoria.  See 
/drugs/misc/dramamine. (*)
Jimson weed:    Yes, but it's a deleriant like Dramamine.  Many people 
every
                year are killed by overdose.  See 
/drugs/natural/datura. (*)
Moldy rye:      No, and you'll get quite sick if you try. (*)
Morning glory:  Yes, but it causes nausea.  See the Morning Glory FAQ.
Nutmeg:         Yes, but most people find it unpleasant, primarily due
                to horrible taste, nausea/vomiting, and 3-day 
hangover.
                See the Nutmeg FAQ and /drugs/natural/nutmeg.
Peanut shells:  No.
Poppy seeds:    No, the seeds contain no opium.
Toads:          Yes, some *rare* toads, namely Bufo alvarus, secrete a
                smokeable venom containing the powerful hallucinogen
                5-MeO-DMT.  See /drugs/psychedelics/tryptamines.

In addition to the favorites above, a number of obscure legal herbs 
and plants
can be used as drugs; most of the common ones contain only ephedrine
or
caffeine though.  See the Natural Highs FAQ and /drugs/natural for 
more.


