Message #405 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 29-Mar-94 21:42
From: Giang Tran
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: U8 Enhanced
Next Reply is Message #459

Hi.
U8 looks great but I'll hold out for the enhanced Cd... one question,
will there be support for other languages( German & French) like the Cd  to
hard drive version? I figure this would be a great way to practice a  foreign
language- much cheaper than a textbook.
thanx- giang

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Message #407 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 29-Mar-94 22:39
From: Henry Truong
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: this is funny...
Previous Reply is Message #326.  Next Reply is Message #460

Hey guy, you wont believe this, but after I wrote to you for help, I found
the  solution, and now I gotten quite further, but there's this one area
where  after all the jumping, heck there's lots of jumping.  there's an isle
with a  big "f" looking symbol and there's a chest and 2 barrels with stuff
in them, when u step on the "f" it teleports you back to another "f" by the
beginning, but I dont know where to go.  I found the magical axe called,
Deceiver.. but Im stumped..  there's no leads, and I found a couple locked
doors.. but no  keys..  eek. thanks again
Henry


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Message #408 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 29-Mar-94 22:42
From: Henry Truong
To:   Thomas Beeker
Subj: Re: Which house...
Previous Reply is Message #329.

hey there, the house maid's house is in the east side of Tenebrae south of
the  shrine of Hydros..


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Message #409 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 29-Mar-94 22:50
From: Henry Truong
To:   Chris Badger
Subj: Re: Pagan-Pit of Death
Previous Reply is Message #358.  Next Reply is Message #546

Hey there, Im where ur at too.. but I dont recall any signs saying pit of
death.. , or am i just being naive?  but yeah, i did find a couple pits..  of
death, but they werent labeled.. :)
s


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Message #410 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 29-Mar-94 21:50
From: Todd Dick
To:   All
Subj: lithos

     I am at stone cove and have opened the big doors and looked around but I
cannot find lithos. Where is he?!

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Message #413 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 29-Mar-94 22:41
From: David Blankenship
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Pagan, selling gems.
Next Reply is Message #461

I killed several changelings and got their gems.  After finding the widow's
shop, I tried to sell the gems.  She keeps telling me to come back after I
find my gems.  The gems are in my pack.  It doesn't help if I put the gems on
the floor, she says the same thing.  I took several things out of my pack to
lower the weight, didn't help either.  What gives?

Thanks,

David


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Message #414 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 29-Mar-94 22:49
From: Henry Truong
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: hmm
Next Reply is Message #462

Ok, I guess that I am stuck cuz I cant locate Lithos.. I went thru the double
doors and searched the place, went thru the falling bridge, the moving
platforms, and cant find the king.. went to this area where it looks like
ruins..  and there are 2 broken levers..  one by a torture chair and it
caused  ghouls to come up.. now I just cant figure where Lithos is.. please
helps..  thanks
Henry


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Message #419 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 02:11
From: Todd Dick
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Lithos
Next Reply is Message #463

    I can't find Lithos. I used a golem to open some big double doors and
searched inside. It is a room with a single golem and a long gap in the NW
that I cant jump. Also there is a platform with the mountain emblem on top.
Am I in the right place. Help!!

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Message #422 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 02:44
From: Tom Ricket
To:   All
Subj: Blank Screens / Diamond boards
Next Reply is Message #436

In case you all havent noticed, the problems with the screen blanking for the
intro (and credits) appears to happen to all the Diamond Stealth video board
users (like myself, on one of my two machines) .. I haven't found a way
around this (the setting libpath=C:\ULTIMA8 doesn't work for me), but at
least the  problem seems to be a bug with the diamond support .. I
re-installed on my  Orchid Farenheit and it all worked fine ..

By the way, anyone notice that when you sleep, you have to walk away for the
people to "teleport" to where they're supposed to be?  Otherwise they seem
to  get stuck where they were ..

--Tom Ricket


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Message #423 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 02:02
From: Johnathan Elsea
To:   Jay Mathis
Subj: Re: Moriens
Previous Reply is Message #391.  Next Reply is Message #569

        How did you open that door that has Toward fate you travel I cant
figure out how to make a golem ever time i try the cross hairs come up and I
click on the caverns ground but nothing happens.


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Message #424 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 02:03
From: Johnathan Elsea
To:   Charles Kelly
Subj: Re: Hack codes...for pagan
Previous Reply is Message #394.  Next Reply is Message #446

        The cheat mode does not work I've tried to activate it but I just get
Fatel err messages.


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Message #425 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 02:12
From: Johnathan Elsea
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Ultima 8 help
Next Reply is Message #465

        Hi dan I just competed the Nectromancers quest and now I am puzzeled
where is stone cave, I thought it was the plaque that metioned Fate, but I
was still unable to open that door I cant even make A golem I cast the spell
and the cross hairs appear but when I click on the ground nothing happen, any
help  would be appreciated.


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Message #426 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 03:21
From: William Harvey
To:   Dan Penney
Subj: U8
Previous Reply is Message #313.  Next Reply is Message #497


Well I would not buy a weapon I got a magic dagger from the hermits house
and  I got Slayer from a dungeon. find a house that has a gem in the middle
of it  and then walk into the middle of the house and you will be in the
dungeon. It  is along the coast and it is really beat up looking house. the
house is along  the south western coast just right out side the city if
tenebrea.
Slayer is cool but maces are not.. it takes forever to kill anything with a
mace but slayer kills things every 8 or so hits.


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Message #434 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 09:37
From: Josh Decker
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: ultima 8
Next Reply is Message #466

I need help getting out of the catacombs after you talk to all the
necromancers.i found a place to get out but i dont have a key.


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Message #436 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 11:09
From: Erik Elsasser
To:   Tom Ricket
Subj: Re: Blank Screens / Diamond boards
Previous Reply is Message #422.  Next Reply is Message #464

I have a Diamond Stealth 24 VLB with rom 2.01 and have not experienced any
problems of screen blanking.
Thought I'd let you know.
ord hariot


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Message #437 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 10:12
From: Brent Karpiak
To:   All
Subj: catacombs
Next Reply is Message #584

        I'm not sure what happened to my last message so I will retype it.
I'm in the catacombs.  Found four doors, 1 unimportant, 1 to a cavern like
place, locked door (think it leads to lithos), another locked door to lower
lever.  I found a key to an empty chest by 2 fire spitters.  Kiled an
invisible person/thing but could not find his body after, found a glowing red
object sticking out of a wall.  Been on top of the second teir where their
is  a glitch where the avatar leaves a trail of frames behind.  Searched all
bodys. Found a magic scroll and some magic leggings. I CAN"T:

        A)Find anything to cast Death speak on
        B) Find keys to the locked doors

Some one plaese help. I'm going CRAZY!!!!


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Message #439 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 11:05
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Rich Valente
Subj: Re: Pagan
Previous Reply is Message #368.

Rich,

>RV  I am having probs w/ my Acecad Acecat 5x8 tablet mouse driver working
>RV  w/ Pagan.  It responds and i am able to click on things,speech,
>RV  ect... but it wont move the Avatar.  He is just stuck in the opening
>RV  spot. Any ideas?  HELP!!!  ;)
Are you using a MS mouse driver. Also, what is your set up. Is somebody
talking to you, If so you will not be able to move, you must click through
there conversation. Make sure that you are using a XMS BOOT.

CONFIG.SYS
device=c:\dos\himem.sys
dos=high,umb
files=40
buffers=40

AUTOEXEC.BAT
prompt $p$g
path c:\dos
[YOUR MOUSE DRIVER]

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #444 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 11:19
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Jennie Hazen
Subj: Re: Ultima8-Necromancer's Dagger
Previous Reply is Message #377.  Next Reply is Message #563

Jennie,

Are you on the QUEST for the dagger??? If not go speak to Vividos then her.
If  you have only spoken to her once then speak with her again.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #446 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 11:24
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Mike Weaver
Subj: Re: Hack codes...for pagan
Previous Reply is Message #424.  Next Reply is Message #495

Mike,

>MW    I was sorta wondering if there are any "cheat" codes for U8??  If
>MW  there are lets hear em!
No.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #447 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 11:26
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Ron O'Neill
Subj: Re: Hintbook/Maps
Previous Reply is Message #385.

Ron,

>RO  Well, I'm new to this BBS, but not to Origin games, and I must say
>RO  that U8 is absolutely excellent so far.  I don't have so much of a
>RO  problem, as a comment: The 45 degree angle perspective view in the
>RO  game makes is VERY difficult to find your way around, and I was
>RO  wondering:
Thanks, you will just want to check the perspective every now and then.

>RO  1) When and if a hintbook containing full maps will be released and
>RO  how much the reccomended price would be.
Probably, the normal 10-12 bucks.

>RO  2) If you would consider an automapping or auto note-taking utility
>RO  for the enchanced CD-ROM verson.
I don't think they will be putting that in.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #453 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 11:42
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Richard Demanowski
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 -- rooms, and cave
Previous Reply is Message #393.

Richard,

>RD  I am having trouble getting through the cave in the plateau.  I keep
>RD  falling off the stepping stones into the water.  It there a way to
>RD  get past these easier?
>RD
You will have to practice!! Line yourself up with the arrow.

>RD  I have found in some people's houses and basements rooms without
>RD  doors.  How does one enter these?  How do the people who live there
>RD  get in?
Look around the houses and look for switches. They are hidden.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #455 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:26
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Geoff Bailey-gates
Subj: Re: Sound problems
Previous Reply is Message #398.  Next Reply is Message #507

Geoff,

If you switched the sound card did you change the settings that are stored
for  the game? If not, just type install at the ULTIMA8 directory. You will
want to  make sure that there is nothing on the IRQ or DMA you are using.
Also, make  sure that the sound is turned on and that the speakers are
plugged in. What  type of Sound Card do you have?? AND what does your system
have on it.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #458 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:39
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Timothy Lesnick
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 installation problems
Previous Reply is Message #403.

Tim,

You will want to give me you CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.bat, and configuration of
the computer you are running. (any peripherals, please list) For some reason,
some computers are giving bad disk stuff with weird boots..

Try this BOOT:

CONFIG.SYS
device=c:\dos\himem.sys
dos=high
files=40
buffers=40

AUTOEXEC.BAT
prompt $p$g
path c:\dos
[YOUR MOUSE DRIVER]

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #459 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:39
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Giang Tran
Subj: Re: U8 Enhanced
Previous Reply is Message #405.

Giang,

>GT  U8 looks great but I'll hold out for the enhanced Cd... one question,
>GT  will there be support for other languages( German & French) like the
>GT  Cd to hard drive version? I figure this would be a great way to
>GT  practice a foreign language- much cheaper than a textbook.
No, I think the speach will be in English only.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #460 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:41
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Henry Truong
Subj: Re: this is funny...
Previous Reply is Message #407.  Next Reply is Message #570

Henry,

>HT  Hey guy, you wont believe this, but after I wrote to you for help, I
>HT  found the solution, and now I gotten quite further, but there's this
>HT  one area where after all the jumping, heck there's lots of jumping.
>HT  there's an isle with a big "f" looking symbol and there's a chest and
>HT  2 barrels with stuff in them, when u step on the "f" it teleports you
>HT  back to another "f" by the beginning, but I dont know where to go.  I
>HT  found the magical axe called, Deceiver.. but Im stumped..  there's no
>HT  leads, and I found a couple locked doors.. but no keys..  eek. thanks
>HT  again
You will want to follow along the west wall and one of the inserts will have
a  passage that leads to the place you want to go.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #461 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:42
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   David Blankenship
Subj: Re: Pagan, selling gems.
Previous Reply is Message #413.  Next Reply is Message #521

Dave,

>DB  I killed several changelings and got their gems.  After finding the
>DB  widow's shop, I tried to sell the gems.  She keeps telling me to come
>DB  back after I find my gems.  The gems are in my pack.  It doesn't help
>DB  if I put the gems on the floor, she says the same thing.  I took
>DB  several things out of my pack to lower the weight, didn't help
>DB  either.  What gives?
Are you sure they are gems? Make sure and just put them in you main
backpack,  I just went and killed some and had no problems.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #462 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:44
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Henry Truong
Subj: hmm
Previous Reply is Message #414.

Henry,

>HT  Ok, I guess that I am stuck cuz I cant locate Lithos.. I went thru
>HT  the double doors and searched the place, went thru the falling
>HT  bridge, the moving platforms, and cant find the king.. went to this
>HT  area where it looks like ruins..  and there are 2 broken levers..
>HT  one by a torture chair and it caused ghouls to come up.. now I just
>HT  cant figure where Lithos is.. please helps.. thanks
>HT  Henry
After pulling the levers run back to where south then west and a
disappearing  platform bridge will appear, to get you across the pit.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #463 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:45
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Todd Dick
Subj: Re: Lithos
Previous Reply is Message #419.

Todd,

Go north and pull the levers by the ruins. Then go back south and to the
west  and there will be a bridge that appears and will get you across.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #464 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:46
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Tom Ricket
Subj: Re: Blank Screens / Diamond boards
Previous Reply is Message #436.  Next Reply is Message #575

Tom,

We have them here and are having no problems. Please give me your CONFIG.SYS
and AUTOEXEC.BAT.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #465 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:47
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Johnathan Elsea
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 help
Previous Reply is Message #425.  Next Reply is Message #482

John,

Use the KEY of SCION that VIVIDOS gives you.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #466 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 13:48
From: Dan Orzulak
To:   Josh Decker
Subj: Re: ultima 8
Previous Reply is Message #434.

Josh,

Just talk to the Necromancers and they teleport you. There are no locks that
I  know of.

Thanks,
DanO


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Message #479 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 15:44
From: Josh Decker
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: ultima8
Next Reply is Message #514

after you talked to the last necromancer he tells you to go to the mountain
king.but i cant find my way out of the catacombs to the hall of the mountain
king.i already talked to the necromancers,so know what am i supposed to do.I
found several locked doors that i cant get into because they are locked.you
can see a way out of the catacombs on the other side of the door though.


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Message #482 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 16:00
From: Johnathan Elsea
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 help
Previous Reply is Message #465.  Next Reply is Message #491

        I have not gotten a key from vidios yet the only key he gave me was
the gatekeepers key, I dont think I'm that far yet Ii haven't used the golem
to unlock any door for me yet where do I do this at and where exzactly do i
make the golem.


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Message #483 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 15:27
From: Jeff Ruffolo
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: How do I get the dagger from the bedroom?  I got t

Okay. I'm in the queen's bedroom early in the game.  Where is the key to get
into the room on the left?  How do I get the chest open.

Also, is there ever going to be a spell book for this game.  If so, where
and  when can I get it.  The graphics are great and I can't wait to get the
magic  part of this game up and running.

There seems to be a limit to how much I should and can carry.  Any
suggestions.  Should I drop the parchment spells and wait for the spell book?
Drop the money bags?  Any hints!

I've played Ultima 6, 7, 7.5 and the add-in disks and this is the best.
Music, graphics and story.  I upgraded to a 486 50meg and 8 megs of RAM just
so I could play for this game, which I've been waitingsix months for.

Will there be a add-in disk for this game.  Will there be another" Ultima"
game in the works after this one?

Thanks for your help.  I look forward to your help and suggestions.


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Message #484 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 15:37
From: Henry Truong
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: no carrier
Next Reply is Message #516

Hello, Ive been having a difficult time logging on to here sometimes, I would
get a ring, but no carrier, and sometimes I get a ring.  Is this a problem
on  my side? Thanks
Henry


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Message #485 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 15:38
From: Henry Truong
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: a spirtual key?
Next Reply is Message #517

Where is the key of Scion?  Or how do i use it?  The Necromancer said its
more  spirtual, but Im stuck. thanks.
s


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Message #486 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 15:23
From: Shango Yenovich
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Where is a key ring?
Next Reply is Message #499

Where is the key ring you mentioned?  I am working through the Mountain  King
area (I hope it is the double door west of that single door  sticking out of
the side of the mountain).  I am stuck after the first  door you open with
the key from the chest with the room full of those  blue barriers.  One way I
go I get to another door that I don't have  the key to, and the other way I
go I get to a place where there is the  sign of the mountain in the middle of
a little island, and when I step  on the sign it sends me back to the
beginning.  Also, how does Mythran judge when to let you learn a new spell?
Is it based on you raising your intelligence from casting spells?  Thanks for
the help and have a nice day! (Was the bbs down this morning? I couln't get
through from 11:00am to about 2:30pm, it would ring and ring and ....).

Shango

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Message #491 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 16:55
From: Robert Skowronski
To:   All
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 help Re: Moriens
Previous Reply is Message #482.

        This happened to me too. The problem was that I was carrying too
much. Try dropping something and then talking to Vidios. However, there is
still one problem for everyone stuck trying to find Moriens (including me).
Namely, the door that says "Towards Fate Do You  Travel" in the catacombs
does NOT lead to Moriens! I have explored it  thoroughly -- it is the Tomb of
Khumash-Gor!!
        You may ask how I know this, well I have talked to the statues  of
the ancients ones at the end, and they said it is the tomb of  Khumash-Gor. I
have also used the divination spell, and it claims I am  in the Tomb of
Khumas-Gor!
       WHERE IS THE BIRTHPLACE OF MORIENS?? I have explored that Upper  &
Lower Catacombs THOROUGHLY. I have explored the Pit of Death  THOROUGHLY. I
been to Argentrock Isle, Carthrax Lake, and a host of  other places, but I
still can't find the birthplace of Moriens.
        To my knowledge there are only two places I have not explored  yet.
The first is the (magically?) locked double doors beyond the  statues -- I
doubt Moriens birthplace is beyond them! If so how do I  open the doors? The
only other place is a single cave in the Pit of  Death, close to the grave of
the confectioner. However, it is  impossible to enter this cave because it is
blocked by rubble -- the  kind of rubble that can't be moved.
        So WHERE IS THE BIRTHPLACE OF MORIENS???
HELP!!!

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Message #494 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 19:00
From: Scott Corn
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: gravis

Dear sirs,
Please make a patch that is compatible for the advanced gravis utrasound
that is able to produce digitized sound. I got Pagan yesterday and was up
until 2:00 A.M. on America Online getting patches and programs that didn't
work. It would be really cool if you could throw in some extra code so the
gravis  wouldn't have to emulate sound blaster and operate in native mode.


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Message #495 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 18:24
From: Charles Kelly
To:   Johnathan Elsea
Subj: Re: Hack codes...for pagan
Previous Reply is Message #446.  Next Reply is Message #568

     A code is required to make the program execute the proper instructions.
You get a general protection fault because there is no way for the program
to
know where to execute ( I think this is the way it works, I could be wrong)
.
What everyone is trying to figure out is what that code is.  As far as I
know
nobody has figured it out yet.

                                                       C. Kelly


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Message #497 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 19:27
From: Brendan Baker
To:   Dan Penney
Subj: U8
Previous Reply is Message #426.

Just wait until the shop owner is taking a walk, then run to his shop,  and
steal everything... worked for me!

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Message #499 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 19:39
From: Brendan Baker
To:   Shango Yenovich
Subj: Re: Where is a key ring?
Previous Reply is Message #486.  Next Reply is Message #511

The key ring is above the palace kitchen in a barrel, just double click
keys, then click the ring to put them on!

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Message #501 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 20:13
From: Luke Miner
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: find lithos

aargh I can't find lithos I went through the whole maze behind the double
doors in stone cove and it just teleported me back to the beginning. Also
how  do you get Bentic's journal?


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Message #503 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 19:51
From: Brent Karpiak
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Catacombs

        I finally found one door that I could open.  I'm near the tortue
chair north of a big rock with the pagan letter for A (looks like an F) there
are to levers.  I pulled, and three gouls appeared nothing else.  I REALY
need help.

        1)where are the keys to the numerous other doors?
        2)what do I do near the torue room?
        3)Anything else to get me back on track?

I've spent the last for days in these catacombs, and I am going nuts.  Did I
miss something major?  I haven't even found the first necromancer.  HELP!

Brent


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Message #504 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 20:45
From: Steven Burns
To:   Merrill Davis
Subj: Re: Ground Doesn't Stop Shaking
Previous Reply is Message #352.

Hi Merrill,
I had the EXACT same problem as you and here is my solution, hope it
helps. I have a SoundBlasterPro 16 and used the default settings when
installing the game.  I called Origin and they said to try looking up  the
correct settings in my manual (can't remember what they were,  sorry).  When
I re-installed with the correct settings, the game worked  fine.  The first
clue I had was the fact that there were no sound  effects in the opening
sequence.

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Message #507 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 20:58
From: Geoff Bailey-gates
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Re: Sound problems
Previous Reply is Message #455.

I never actually switched the sound card itself, I just altered the IRQ and
the DMA settings through the Ultima8 install file.  I am getting sound, so I
know that my speakers are on and working.  The music works perfectly, but
when I have the sound FX option on, it gives me a bunch  of loud annoying
static, constantly. I've got a Sound Blaster ASP,  which is fully compatible
with both regular SB, and SB Pro. I'm not  exactly sure what you mean by what
do I have on my system.  If you mean  what programs I have, I'm running DOS
6.2, and WINDOWS 3.1, along with over 150 megabytes of other programs.  I'm
sorry I can't be more specific, but what exactly do you want to know about my
system? I fear that I am not the only one with this problem.  I've skimmed
through  other messages left by users, and someone responded to my original
message, telling me that it happens to him also.

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Message #509 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:03
From: Kevin Dahms
To:   Gerry Rice
Subj: Same Problem
Previous Reply is Message #300.  Next Reply is Message #589

Gerry --

Have you come up with a solution to your problem with the introduction? I
also have a pentium 60 with a Diamond Viper PCI card, and guess what.... it
hangs on the intro but escape takes me to the diary.  Any solution?

                                         Kevin Dahms

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Message #510 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:14
From: Kevin Dahms
To:   All
Subj: u8 load problems

Help Me!


I have a Pentium 60 with a Diamond Viper PCI card.  I'm running QEMM,  have
the latest windows and mouse drivers.  I install U8 from CD, and  the intro
never plays...even after waiting a good 10 minutes.  I tried  running the
test mode, but it locks my system half way through the  files test.  I have a
SB compatible sound card (actually it is a  Gateway 2000 card, same as the
system).  I noticed someone else had a  similar problem with my
configuration.  Any solutions to this?



Thanks --

Kevin

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Message #511 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:19
From: Shango Yenovich
To:   Brendan Baker
Subj: Re: Where is a key ring?
Previous Reply is Message #499.

Good deal!  Thanks for the help... I thought I had already been through  the
palace, but guess not!  Off to Lithos I go!

Shango

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Message #512 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 21:50
From: David Jones
To:   All
Subj: Lazy Programmers :)

   Hey,  I was just puttin' around, kinda board because I was very stuck with
a problem.  I was looking for Intesting ways to screw with the game and found
a good one.  If you go north of the city to the cave blocked off by all the
lumber, you can take that lumber and stck it up next to the plateau high
enough to where you can jump to the top of the plateau.  well it  is obvious
that whoever did the graphics didn't think that anyone would do this....   I
actually fell off the world..  well, back to the game!

  D. Jones


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Message #513 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:50
From: Zane Abernathy
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Catacombs

Ok, I'm doing the Catacomb quest for the new Necromancer.
I've been walking around for some time.  I've found a key couple of scrolls
and reagents...but, haven't found those dead Necromancer's.  How are they
Identified.?

How do you make it pass the skeletons and the ghost.?  I've tried just
running  but that doesn't work.  Can the skeletons and ghost be killed?

Oh yea, I've found a key ring.  climb up between the two buildings right
above  the palace onto the walk way.  You can then enter the two buildings
and fine some cool stuff...includeing the key ring.  To use the key ring
double click on the key and then on the key ring.


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Message #514 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:59
From: Dan Crookston
To:   Josh Decker
Subj: Re: ultima8
Previous Reply is Message #479.

I ran into the same problem. You need to look around the catacombs behind the
double black doors.  The passage is hard to see and it is off to the left,
You need to go through several series of the moving platforms. Good Luck.
                                                Dan


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Message #516 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 23:04
From: Dan Crookston
To:   Henry Truong
Subj: Re: no carrier
Previous Reply is Message #484.

It hapens every time I try to call. I think it is on their end.


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Message #517 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 23:10
From: Dan Crookston
To:   Henry Truong
Subj: Re: a spirtual key?
Previous Reply is Message #485.  Next Reply is Message #531

The key of Scone is a cepter with glowing eyes.  The necromacershould have
given it to you when you came back from talking with the mountain king.  When
you find it go to the back of the building and use the cepter on the dead
body.  Good Luck
                                                Dan


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Message #518 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:22
From: Christopher Strong
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Ultima VIII gamma


Ultima VIII is pretty dark on my system.  The brightness and contrast
(pedestal and gain) controls are up all the way, but if the lights are on,
it's still a bit too dim.  If I open up the monitor and change the
sub-brightness control or up the grid ltage, everything else is too
light.

Is there a fix for this?  Some sort of gamma-correction button or flag I can
set to up the sub-brightness of the program?  (The shareware game Doom! has
such a fn.)  How about for Underworld I/II..I have not yet purchased these
games, as when a friend brought over Underworld I once it was too dark to
play.

In case you are curious, the monitor is an Amdek SmartScan 735 multisync and
the card is a Diamond SpeedStar 24X.  I know the monitor is a bit old, but
when I purchased it in '89 it was pretty hot stuff...and as I paid just
under
a grand for the thing I intend to get my money's worth <grin>.

                                                        -Chris


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Message #519 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 23:22
From: Dan Crookston
To:   All
Subj: Moriens Birth Place

I have been searching the upper catacombs for Moriens birth place and I
cannot  find it. I am starting to wonder if he was actuall born.  Please help
                                                Forever wandering Avatar


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Message #521 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 22:55
From: David Blankenship
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Re: Pagan, selling gems.
Previous Reply is Message #461.  Next Reply is Message #541

I'm not sure if this program uses message quoting, so I'll back-track a
little.  I'm having a problem selling my gems to the widow.  The gems I have
in my pack are 4 Chaos gems and 3 Fire gems.  I've tried putting them loose
in  my pack, putting them in a separate bag, and putting them on the floor in
front of her.  Nothing works.  I assume these are gems because when I
left-click on them they're -called- gems.  She always tells me I seem to have
misplaced my gems and to come back when I find them.

Also, another problem I'm stuck on.  I got the dagger for Vividos and he
used  in on Lothian.  I got the Executioner's Hood and the sticks and took
them to  Vividos.  Vividos gave me the Key of the Caretaker and told me the
Open Earth  spell and the Death Speak spell were in the Library.  I assume he
means the  library on the floor above where Lothian was sacrificed.  I can't
find any  spells in the Library or anywhere else in the building, nor in the
main  Library in town.  I got the reagents and the bag, but no spells.

Thanks for the help,

David


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Message #523 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 30-Mar-94 23:14
From: Todd Dick
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Dead End
Next Reply is Message #550

     I went across the bridge and followed the cavern to an island with two
barrels and a chest. Also there is a mountain symbol which when stepped on
takes you bake to the cavern just beyond the big double doors. Where do I go
from here. I really am getting tired of walking  around looking for the
titan. Where is he?!
     Thanks,
           Todd

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Message #525 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 30-Mar-94 23:59
From: Robert Bridenbecker
To:   Brent Karpiak
Subj: Re: general questions
Previous Reply is Message #376.


In a message to All <03-29-94 13:34> Brent Karpiak wrote:

>BK    I have three geberal questions for anyone who can help.
>BK
>BK  1) How can I tell wich is the best weapon between:
>BK      a)repier
>BK      b)mace
>BK      c)axe
>BK
>BK  2) I'm in the catacombs, what do I use Death Speak on?
>BK
>BK  3) Any hints on fighting? (I realy suck at it)
>BK
>BK      Thanks alot
>BK      Brent

1) The way I figure, is the most expensive according to the weaponsmith is
the  best, although it does depend on your fighting style.  If U8 follows
standard  rules, the most powerful of the weapons available from the
weaponsmith in town  is the broadsword (ie: longsword).  Of course, if again
it follows standard  rules (D&D) it also depends on your stats [for how much
damage gets done to a  creature]

2) Use death speak on any of the Necromancers, you will only be able to get
to  one Necromancer at a time, and you will find enough reagents in the
catacombs  to suffice for your whole journey (plus some).

3) Dunno, can't help you there, try running.


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Message #528 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 10:57
From: Paul Smiley
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: ultima 8

For install problems, DEFINITELY DO NOT use a "disk cache" during install,
for  some reason some files gets corrupted (this includes that build thing
that  occurs the first time you run U8).

My questions are:

How do you speed up the game, especially game save/restores?!!?!  (as far as
memory managers, disk caches, ram allocation, etc.)

How does your character get his strength / hit points /mana increased?

Pau
l


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Message #529 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 11:33
From: Steven Snyder
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Missing Lithos

        I have been wandering around the catacombs for a very long time  to
long in fact...I have been searching for Lithos and have made it to the
Island with his symbol on it...although when I step into the symbol it takes
me back to the entry of the chamber, a very upsetting thing...So where
haven't I looked???
        Another little item, which is stronger the longsword or the Fang of
Kolobri???

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Message #530 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 10:49
From: Kelly Roberts
To:   Chris Shelton
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 CD ROM Won't Run
Previous Reply is Message #181.  Next Reply is Message #553

HI CHRIS. I also have the u8 cd-rom. since u8 requires so much  ram(3.5meg) i
had to disable EVERYTHING except himem, cd drivers, mouse  drivers, sound
drivers

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Message #531 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 11:46
From: Henry Truong
To:   Dan Crookston
Subj: Re: a spirtual key?
Previous Reply is Message #517.  Next Reply is Message #551

where is the dead body? :)
I also found the pit of death, anything interesting there?


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Message #532 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 11:25
From: Brendan Baker
To:   All
Subj: Where Am I?

I'm lost, I've been all through the Necromancers tombs, but I can't  find the
guys I'm supposed to Death Speak to! Where are they, so I can  learn whatever
I was supposed to... been so long I forgot.
Also ... Ho do I get to the top of the plateau? , I haven't been able  to
talk to the hermit. I found the cave by the waterfall, is this the  way, I
thought it dead-ended by the chest.
                        Help Me!

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Message #533 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 11:30
From: Brendan Baker
To:   Johnathan Elsea
Subj: Re: Pagan
Previous Reply is Message #241.

I know how to cast Open Earth... put the reagenst in the bag by  themselves,
then double click the Necromancers (Necropheliac :) )
key, then click the bag, look in the bag, and you will see a rune.  double
click the rune, then click the wall, it will disappear!

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Message #534 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 11:31
From: Brendan Baker
To:   Mike Chavez
Subj: Re: Pagan
Previous Reply is Message #243.

Sticks are in the west part of town just NW of that building with the
wounded Cow thing, and Ex Heads are just southEast of the Cemetary in a  pit,
just inside city walls

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Message #535 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 11:33
From: Brendan Baker
To:   Dan Crookston
Subj: Re: magic weapons
Previous Reply is Message #291.  Next Reply is Message #543

Hit them many times, if they hit back, block... :)

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Message #536 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 12:23
From: Jim Haden
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Re: install difficulties
Previous Reply is Message #222.

I had the same problem, after manually installing it once.  I figured  out
the problem.  If you already use arj and have setup the ARJ_SW  variable some
of the options can cause dearj.exe to halt, thus the halt  after
decompressing the first disk.

Jim

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Message #539 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 13:16
From: Bill Parks
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Ancient Ones????
Next Reply is Message #548

One question, how the hell does one get through those omnious double doors
that lie directly behind the Ancient Ones in the underground temple. Do I
need  a key or is it a puzzle lock???? Any help would be appreciated. Can't
seem to  find anything to get past it. I have all the keys I could possibly
want on the key ring, Scion key, etc..., what do I need to do?!!!!!


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Message #541 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 13:59
From: James Parkman
To:   David Blankenship
Subj: Re: Pagan, selling gems.
Previous Reply is Message #521.

Those may be called gems, but in reality they are weapons. The gems you  can
sell include "dancing rubys" and "dark diamonds". But kepp those  others,
especially the chaos gems! Try double clicking on them and  throwing them
close to a monster. The fire gem explodes, but the chaos  gem explodes and
sends several fire gems around the screen. They don't  seem to be very
powerful though (I havent been able to kill anything  with them yet, even
when they step right on them).
        Also, can anyone give some fighting tips? I'm having a real  problem
even hitting anything except ghouls. It seems that if they get  the first
strike I am never able to get back up without getting knocked  right back
down.

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Message #543 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 13:49
From: Marc Morgan
To:   Geoff Bailey-gates
Subj: Re: magic weapons
Previous Reply is Message #535.  Next Reply is Message #566

You can kill skeletons. You have to have a special weapon to do it. If you go
outside of tenebrae, then head east you should come to a house with a mad
guard in it, just go south from there and there will be a small shack, walk
inside and a hole will open up, then you are on your own... ;D


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Message #544 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 13:35
From: Brad Morris
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: talking to necromancers & where to go
Next Reply is Message #547

O.K. I'm inside of the underground  cemetary where you use the open ground
spell to get in. I've tried to save my game and cast death talk on just about
every dead body in the place and nothing ever happens.  Also I found one one
key so far and all it opens up is a chest near the main entrance that has
nothing in it.  I even got through the door at the back of this place and it
turns into a cave after that. there is a door even farther back in there and
i can't un lock it either. Help!!
Aside from that though this is the best Ultima game I've played so  far!!
                                                            Brad

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Message #545 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:33
From: Mike Brierley
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Introduction Doesn't Play

The Intro doesn't Play on my machine but [ESC] takes me to the book.
What Gives?

system: 486/dx2/66
        20 megs ram
        Logitech Cyberman mouse
        PAS16 sound card
        Texcel cdrom (media used for installation)
        Dos 6.2
        Qemm 7.03
        As basic a config as I can get away with...

Origin logo Does Not appear at beginning of game...

Hellp!!!


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Message #546 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 13:43
From: Chris Badger
To:   Henry Truong
Subj: Re: Pagan-Pit of Death
Previous Reply is Message #409.

The pit of death is an entire area of its own.  You will see a sign just
outside a cave labeled "THE PIT OF DEATH".  It looks alot like the
catecombs, but I have found nothing useful here at all.  If you need help
finding Lithos the Mountain King, then you need to go to the room with
the two sets of doors that can only be opened by the Golem.  Go through
the large stone double doors, Lithos is at the end of this cave.


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Message #547 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:09
From: Jay Mathis
To:   Brad Morris
Subj: Re: talking to necromancers & where to go
Previous Reply is Message #544.

Death speak wont work on those dead bodies.  The necromancers are
clearly labeled with "Necromancer" so you will know when to use it.
To find them, look for a small crypt with one bed inside.  There are two in
the catacombs.  One is labeled "treasurer" the other isnt labeled at all.
Go into the one without the label and you should fall into a pit that goes
down to the level with all the necros.  Hope that helps.
JCM


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Message #548 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:11
From: Jay Mathis
To:   Bill Parks
Subj: Re: Ancient Ones????
Previous Reply is Message #539.  Next Reply is Message #571

I got stuck here for a while too.  Try a scroll from Mythran.
Open secret door...
JCM


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Message #550 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:16
From: Jay Mathis
To:   Todd Dick
Subj: Re: Dead End
Previous Reply is Message #523.

There are two teleporters in the Halls with the Mountain Kings
symbol on it.  One at the beginning and one at the end.  Unfortunately,
you can only teleport from the end to the beginning.  Anyways, if you have
found the second teleporter then you are very close.  After you get off the
last set of moving platforms, go north.  You should see a bunch of skeleton
warriors etc.  But dont worry, they wont attack.
JCM


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Message #551 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:19
From: Jay Mathis
To:   Dan Crookston
Subj: Re: a spirtual key?
Previous Reply is Message #531.

The Necro wont give you the key if you are carrying a full load tho.
Nor will he drop it.  This confused the hell out me for a long time, so it
may  be confusing others too.
JCM


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Message #552 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:31
From: Jay Mathis
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Stuck again

Hi,
  I am quickly becoming quick proficient at this game.  This is
without a doubt the best game ever.
  However, Im stuck.  Ive finished the Earth quest and retrieved the
Heart of Earth.  Ive also completed the Air quest and retrieved
the Breath of Air.  But now I cant get any further.  Ive talked to
Hydros and she tells me to "open ground" on the grave of her captors
beloved (Kalen's beloved?), but I cant find this grave and have no leads
as to where it might be.  Ive also found the door leading to what I assume
is  the Fire area but I seem to solve the alternating rising walls that keep
blocking the door.  I thought about using Aerial servant to move the lever
while standing under the door, but the spell no longer seems to work seems I
took the Breath of Air.  So then I returned the Breath but still nothing.
Help please.
JCM


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Message #553 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:15
From: Miguel Segimon
To:   David Stephens
Subj: Re: Ultima 8 CD ROM Won't Run
Previous Reply is Message #530.

Hi.. I had the same problem but from the diskette version. I had that problem
and I made the game work by using FILES=50 and BUFFERS=30 in config.sys.
Also,  my itro didn't work with a 386 mem manager (QEMM 7.01), so I load with
a  configuration that uses HIMEM only--- this game doesn't need that much
Base  memory anyway (good job on that one guys).

Miguel


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Message #554 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 14:19
From: Miguel Segimon
To:   Steve Young
Subj: Re: Doors and the like..
Previous Reply is Message #379.  Next Reply is Message #560

The key to her chambers is in the throne room, to the WEST, under the pillow
with the golden skull figure on it... Thanks for the bloodwatch tip, I
couldn't figure out how to OPEN THE ROOM WITH THE CHEST !!!!!!!!
AHHHHH!!!!!!!  thanks.

Miguel


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Message #556 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 15:47
From: Joe Obrien
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: BUG IN CATACOMBS
Next Reply is Message #574

FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE IT... GREAT FOLLOW UP TO U7 AND SPTS GATE, LUCKILY
I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY CONFLICTS RUNNING THE GAME (BOOT DISK).  ANYWAY,
SO I'M IN THE CAVE UNDER THE WATERFALL, AND PULL THE LEVER BYT  THE CHEST,
AND THE SCREEN GOES BACKWARDS AND UPSIDEDOWN!!! LUCKILY, I  HAD SAVED THE
GAME PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WHEN I REBOOTED MY CPU, THE SAME  PROBLEM OCCURRED
INCLUDING
THE "ORIGIN" TRADEMARK . WHATS THE DEAL? WILL THIS HAVE ANY EFFECT ON  THE
REST OF THE GAME? THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE IN ADVANCE!!! JOE  OBRIEN...

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Message #557 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:01
From: Scott Mcgillivray
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: locks

How the heck do you pick locks!!??  I have found several chests and  doors
that I cannot find keys to, so I try to smash them open but it  does no good.
Do you need a key for everything locked?

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Message #558 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 15:25
From: Todd Dick
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Moriens

     Thanks to your help I found the titan, but now I am looking for the
birth place of Moriens. I used the Key of Scions to open the door in the
upper catacombs and all I found was one key and the Skull of Quakes. I have
also searched the pit of death but found nothing. Where is the birthplace of
Moriens so I can complete the pilgrimage.
     Thanks for the help,
                        Todd

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Message #560 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:38
From: Jon Bakert
To:   Steve Young
Subj: Re: Doors and the like..
Previous Reply is Message #554.  Next Reply is Message #561


I'm stuck on the same exact spot!  (The doors are locked to the Tempests
chamber.)  It was going well enough, (got my dex to 19 and my strength to
17),  but I'm STUCK!   HELP! Arg.


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Message #561 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:40
From: Jon Bakert
To:   Chris Shelton
Subj: Re: Doors and the like..
Previous Reply is Message #560.  Next Reply is Message #564



THAT's where the key is!!!  (Ugh) My friend pointed out something about the
coushin, but I said "No!  Couldn't be there!"  Didn't you guys at origin make
that a LITTLE obscure?


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Message #563 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:42
From: Jon Bakert
To:   Kyle Mannerberg
Subj: Re: Ultima8-Necromancer's Dagger
Previous Reply is Message #444.  Next Reply is Message #582


You've probably already gotten a response - but the key to that room is
under  the skull cushin in the throne room...

(Odd, I know)


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Message #564 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:41
From: Steve Young
To:   Jon Bakert
Subj: Re: Doors and the like..
Previous Reply is Message #561.  Next Reply is Message #567

key is under pillow in throne room


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Message #565 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:24
From: Kirk Haley
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Stealing

It seems alot of you are having trouble getting things the way we used to in
U7.  Stealing is still possible, only more difficult because the game is more
complex.  My favorite strategy is to find a house in east Tenebrae, jump
onto  the roof and pull myself up.  From there you can go downstairs and get
to  work!


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Message #566 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:45
From: Steve Young
To:   Dan Crookston
Subj: Re: magic weapons
Previous Reply is Message #543.  Next Reply is Message #594

Youll need magic weapons to kill ghosts too. I got my first one in a dungeon
to the southwest of tenebrea. Look for a hole that you will fall into inside
of an old decrepit building. The weapon is a mace called slayer, and you have
to go through a long dungeon to get it, But you need it, so go for it!
Youll get youre next magic weapon later, in the tomb of khumashmash gor


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Message #567 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:47
From: Steve Young
To:   Zane Abernathy
Subj: Re: Doors and the like..
Previous Reply is Message #564.

exit to the southeast of the palace, turn north, then east again, the house
is  the one to the north surrounded by the fence..


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Message #568 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 16:58
From: Steve Young
To:   Mike Weaver
Subj: Re: Hack codes...for pagan
Previous Reply is Message #495.

Dont even try to get cheat code out of any origin guys man.. They wont even
take cash bribes, There under an oath of death or something..  Rest assured
though that there IS a cheat for Ultima8.. Look at the code in the main
executable.. I just dont know how to access it.. Theres also a cheat for
Ultima 7 which I dont know, and one for U6 which I do know but will not
reveal  for fear of my life and account.. Give it up.. They will NEVER tell
you!!


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Message #569 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 17:00
From: Steve Young
To:   Jay Mathis
Subj: Re: Moriens
Previous Reply is Message #423.  Next Reply is Message #591

To get to the tomb of Moriens/KG youll need to use many of youre necromantic
spells, where there ae locked doors, use golems, where the grave is, take a
hint from the reagents on the table and OPEN GROUND, Have fun when you get to
the STEPS OF HANOI problem too, youll also need stone flesh at the end...
and  make sure you pick up the ceremonial zealen shield...


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Message #570 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 17:02
From: Steve Young
To:   Henry Truong
Subj: Re: this is funny...
Previous Reply is Message #460.

WHoa whoa man... exatly WHERE is deciever?!?!


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Message #571 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 17:12
From: Steve Young
To:   Bill Parks
Subj: Re: Ancient Ones????
Previous Reply is Message #548.

First yer gonna need a shield o the zealens (ceremonial) youre gonna lob that
onto th altar of the templ, at which point the three gods will speak to ya..
then to enter the tomb of khumash-gor, youll need a have that awesome open
portal spell from mystram (spelling?) go in, kill the ghost, get the black
rock and talk to the gods again for some MUCH NEEDED insight on the point of
the game..


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Message #574 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 17:33
From: Steve Orth
To:   Joe Obrien
Subj: Re: BUG IN CATACOMBS
Previous Reply is Message #556.

I've seen that happen several times (i.e. screen upside down and backwards).
But didn't see anything happen to the ORIGIN logo. If you pull the lever
again, everything should right itself. I think it may be an allusion to a
stunt in Ultima 5 where if you yell "flip flop" in the right place, the
screen  turns upside down...
Ain't U8 GREAT!??!
Eldritch


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Message #575 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 18:22
From: Scott Johnson
To:   Tom Ricket
Subj: Re: Blank Screens / Diamond boards
Previous Reply is Message #464.

I have a Diamond Stealth 24 VLB and have had no problems with Pagan at  all.

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Message #576 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 18:16
From: Luke Miner
To:   All
Subj: bentic's journal

How do you get Bentic's journal in the evidence room?


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Message #577 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 18:23
From: Josh Decker
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: ultima8

i was wondering if you know how to get to the mountain king after you talk to
the last necromancer.i get a message before and it said something about
double  doors,and moving platforms.so can you tell me exactly where to go
after  talking to the last necromancer.i found a set of double doors but it
just led into a small room,and there was nothing in it.this is my like third
time calling so can you just give me exact directions.
                               thanks,
                                   josh


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Message #578 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 18:32
From: Caroline Bishop
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: I'm getting to be a regular on this show...

    I tried what you suggested - raise files & buffers to 50, rem out the
mamouse, and the same durn thing happened.  More detail - I type u8, the
cursor moves down a line.  The screen does not clear, no text a appears, the
hard drive light blinks for a few seconds, then stays off.   CTRL-break will
get me the c:\ultima8> prompt again.  I reinstalled,  but didn't get a
percentage or anything like you said I would.  I have  a 100% compatible
clone (some phone company - the future is here, today  ring any bells?)
386DX, 25 or 330 MHz (I forget which, but it's a lot faster than one would
think) (oops, that's 30, not 330, it's not THAT fast).  I have DOS 5.0 and
could have 4dos, if you want it.  I have QEMM, disabled on my boot disk.
SmartDrive ditto.  640K and change conventional RAM, a handful less than 8
megs XMS.  I have an AdLib, which I haven't been trying to install (first the
game, then we worry about luxuries).  No problems, hardware-wise, that I know
of.  Help me - the phonebills alone'll sink me!

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Message #581 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 19:36
From: Karl Liebl
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Spells in the catacombs

I have found my way to the first necromancer and he tild me how to cast the
mask of death spell - I assume I need to use it to get past the demons.
However, the spell always fizzles.  Moving stuff around in my inventory is
also getting rough - sometimes the amount moved number reads 0 but items are
moved.  I have ran past the demons and gotten to the next necromancer and he
has told me his spell which I assume I must have to pass the lightning bolt
to  the north.  Is my spell use crashing?  I have been trying to cast the
spells  in the correct order using the appropriate reagents and the bag,
scepter, etc,  but every time they fizzle with the exception of death speak
and open ground.  Any help would be appreciated.


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Message #582 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 20:32
From: Jennie Hazen
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: Re: Ultima8-Necromancer's Dagger
Previous Reply is Message #563.

Thanks for the hint about the dagger.  I figured it out from someone
else's letter after I wrote you.  Now I'm wandering around the Pit of
Death.

BTW: I'm impressed by how quickly mail gets answered here--Good Job.

Bye for now,

Jennie


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Message #583 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 20:00
From: Kevin Dahms
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: U8 introduction problem

HI--

I'm having a problem with the introduction of U8.  I left two messages
yesterday, but I figure you're the one I should talk to.  Anyway, I  have a
pentium 60 (gateway), 16 meg ram, qemm mem manager, cd rom, etc.
I loaded the game, but the intro never ruins, and I never get the Origin
Logo.  I can hit esc to start the game, but what's up.  Is it the mem
manager?  Any ideas?  It looks like other people are having the same problem.
What am I missing in the intro?  Even if it isn't important, I'd still like
to see it.   Thanks.

Kevin

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Message #584 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN" (RECEIVED)
Date: 31-Mar-94 20:41
From: Jennie Hazen
To:   Brent Karpiak
Subj: Re: catacombs
Previous Reply is Message #437.  Next Reply is Message #587

Hi Brent,

You need to wander around in the catacombs until you fall through the
floor and aren't killed.  Then you will find necromancers on the next
floor.  They look very different from regular dead bodies, so don't
worry about mistaking them.  I don't remember where I fell through the
floor unfortunately.  BTW--hint that helps several places, be sure to
actually go into cavern corners, sometimes there are difficult to see
passageways.

I'm looking for Lithos now, and am currently exploring the Pit of Death.

Bye for now,

Jennies


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Message #587 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 20:30
From: Brent Karpiak
To:   Jennie Hazen
Subj: Re: catacombs
Previous Reply is Message #584.

Thanks for the reply, but I just finished talking to all the Nec. moments
before reading your posting.  I made the golem, and to the north is a small
door, and a large double doors.  Is the small door the way into the "Pit of
Death"?  Which door is lithos behind (if any- I thought he was behind the
door in the catacombs labled "you travel toward your fate" but I have no idea
how to get the golem there).  If anyone else is intersedted My first time
around I could open the double large doors without the golem.  Not sure if
thats a  glitch or not.  Well of to find Lithos

Brent


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Message #589 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 22:03
From: Gerry Rice
To:   Kevin Dahms
Subj: Re: Same Problem
Previous Reply is Message #509.

Yea, after reading a few messages her I took a better look at the
installation  guid... It said that you can't have more than 4meg expanded
ram, so I had to  creat a boot disk to limit the amount, kind of a drag, I
was hopin not to have  to use a boot disk... but all works fine now, and it
ain't that big of a deal  I guess...

anyway, if you haven't got it solved yet, give that a try, by the way... do
you happen to know what the falling sticks are in the nec's first quest?? :)

gerry


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Message #591 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 22:27
From: Jay Mathis
To:   Steve Young
Subj: Re: Moriens
Previous Reply is Message #569.

Thanks, but I think you must have been reading a very old post or something.
Im way past that now.  Now I stuck on something totally new.
Im past the Earth and Air areas.  And Ive freed Hydros.  But I cant seem to
get into the Fire areas.  Any ideas?
JCM


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Message #594 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 23:02
From: Geoff Bailey-gates
To:   Marc Morgan
Subj: Re: magic weapons
Previous Reply is Message #566.

O.K. I got "SLAYER" after quite an adventure.  It is a great weapon,  but
when I fought a skeleton with it, it had the flash and the thunder,  but the
skeleton got back up.  I kept smashing him but he kept getting  up. Am I
using it wrong?

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Message #597 "ULTIMA 8: PAGAN"
Date: 31-Mar-94 22:53
From: Steven Prewitt
To:   Dan Orzulak
Subj: NEC 3xe

Hello.
I've read through a great deal of the messages and none address my
particular  problem, so here goes...
I Have an Intel DX 50 (true 50)
NEC 3XE triple speed CD Rom
PAS 16 (I7 D3)
16 MEG RAM
NEC SCSI adapter
424 MEG IDE HD ona local bus controller
2 MEG Western Digital Local Bus video card
(and because of all the money I spent, a p.o.'ed wife!)

But anyway, My CD-ROM drive will not read the U8 disc.
It tries to read it for about 30 seconds and then gives me an "undefined
error."

I cannot by any hook or crook get it to read the disc.  I have disabled
qemm,  run it in xms only, used emm386, disabled local bus controller,
disbaled local  bus video.  No dice.

I took the disc to a friend's before returning it and it worked on his
sytem (so I kicked his dog!) but I returned the disc anyway.  The second one
doesn't work either.  I would be at the end of my rope but I pawned it to buy
this game.  Can you help?

Steven Prewitt


